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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:01 pm 
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I think there rather pretty :wink: .... and don't miss my next thread solely dedicated to CY and PB :axe:

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P-51D's no explanation needed

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P-51D's 339th FG

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P-51D's 339th FG

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P-51D of Maj Roy Webb 361st FG

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P-51D of Maj Roy Webb 361st FG

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B-26

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B-26's

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Line up of P-47's

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Gabby's P-47

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Rocket Installations Under The Wings Of A Republic P-47 Of The 353Rd Fighter Group Somewhere In England May 1944

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Have Been Loaded Under The Wings Of The Republic P-47 Arkansas Traveler
Of The 353Rd Fighter Group In Preparation For Its Participation In The
D-Day Invasion, 6 June 1944

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Force Ground Crewmen Lift Out The Unconscious Pilot Of A Republic P-47
After His Flak Riddled Plane Crashed On A New Airstrip Somewhere In
France. 16 June 1944 P-47 367th FS 358th FG 9th AF

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Force Ground Crewmen Lift Out The Unconscious Pilot Of A Republic P-47
After His Flak Riddled Plane Crashed On A New Airstrip Somewhere In
France. 16 June 1944 P-47 367th FS 358th FG 9th AF

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P-47 367th FS 358th FG 9th AF

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Force Ground Crewmen Lift Out The Unconscious Pilot Of A Republic P-47
After His Flak Riddled Plane Crashed On A New Airstrip Somewhere In
France. 16 June 1944

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P-51D Mustang 352nd Fighter Group 487th Fighter Squadron sn 44-14955

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410th Bomb Group A-20

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416th Bombardment Group 1944

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416th Bombardment Group 1944

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416th Bombardment Group 1944

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as for the invasion stripes, they were their for the cause...... i.d. friend or foe for the mission. as to the sharks teeth....... complete "esprit de corp" & great for morale!!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:30 pm 
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Awesome Mark!!

Thanks for another great post!

As far as shark mouths and invasion stripes. The key to everything is the right dosage. Too much of a good thing, you know.


We briefly considered this scheme for our Tiger.

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Invasion stripes over and under, D-Day and immediately afterwards, lower only stripes by order well past D-Day with top side stripes removed or painted over to obliterate them. look at the belly of Maj. Webbs 'D' and the top side of that A-20 on just how haphazardly the stripes were installed, on the evening of 6/5/44 using wall paper brushes by anyone caught with nothing to do that evening! Webbs wing stripes spread out like warm butter, a 'details' note to modellers as well as guys doing a Riddler Award stye laser perfect striping set up on their P-51, none were done with a carpenters square and a chalk snap line until after the fact-

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:58 pm 
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"...the stripes were installed, on the evening of 6/5/44..."

Actually stripes were applied over night June 3-4 since take-off was to be about 21:45 DBST (June 4) in order to start putting troops on the ground at appx 00:15 on June 5....Of course the invasion was postponed for 24 hours so the planes sat around striped for 24 hours.....amazing the bad guys didn't get wise to something during that time!


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In the middle of the pack of great photos is a flight of "P-51 D's of the 339th FG", isn't the background aircraft really not a "D" model but an earlier one with a "Malcolm Hood" ?


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Why so negative?

I've seen both on too many aircraft that shouldn't have them...L-3, RV-4s, Navions...all fine aircraft, but none should have them.

But it's not anything that keeps me up nights. :)

And yes, somebody will probably come up with a photo of a Korean war Navion with a shark's mouth. :)

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another great set Mark, love that P-38 with the shark mouths on the engines!

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Roger, that P-38 "white 33" is under restoration at Westpac!

That's a sharkmouth wearing machine that no one will be able to gripe about! :lol:

http://www.westpacrestorations.com/inde ... g-white-33

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Roger, that P-38 "white 33" is under restoration at Westpac!Andy

Andy I don't believe this is the same #33. I may be wrong but I believe the P-38 in the photo and the one being restored at Westpac are two different airplanes. I believe there's a thread or two here somewhere that discusses this.

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A 22 SOS "Zorro" pokes fun at the F-4 gang ...

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Mark Allen M wrote:
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Roger, that P-38 "white 33" is under restoration at Westpac!Andy

Andy I don't believe this is the same #33. I may be wrong but I believe the P-38 in the photo and the one being restored at Westpac are two different airplanes. I believe there's a thread or two here somewhere that discusses this.


I think Mark is right on this, Japanese Sandman II is apparently in Jerry Yagen's hands somewhere in the southern hemisphere. At least that's the rumor.

I agree with JohnB, shark mouths don't really look good on everything, not a huge fan of them on B-17s and L-4s, but love them on B-24s, P-51s, and P-40s of course.

D-Day stripes? Love them! Never enough of them, especially some of the recent aircraft that had them applied properly with mops, and brushes.

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Chappie wrote:
I think Mark is right on this

Hey you mean I could be "right" about something for once? :supz:

And here's a couple more of those black and white stripe things.

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P-51 42-106707 Sleepy Time Gal in foreground (P51-B, 361st FG 376th FS E9-S)

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Lockheed P-38 Lightning Fighter of 8th AAF warms up prior to leaving for its mission over Germany

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Lockheed P-38 Lightnings fighters queue u pat daybreak, 6 June 44, as they get ready for a patrol over France

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P-47D 42-27249 was assigned to the 377th Ftr Sq, 362nd FG. It was lost 26 November 1944 near Schonberg, Belgium; pilot 1LT Fred C. Ford was KIA

... and another one of those dreaded combos types. :wink:

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Douglas A-20 'Butch' Of The 410Th Bomb Group, Parked At A 9Th Air Force Base In England. 22 June 1944

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Lynn......................after seeing this post I haven't been this sick since I had the flu last winter. I was wretching with every post!!!! Good thing nobody had landing gear cover photos!


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The first shark's mouth?
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Note also painted "curtains" in the side windows...



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