Thanks for your post!
JDK, My post did not condone circumventing the laws of any nation.
Sorry, I wasn't suggesting your
post did, and...
Just because we are legally bound to abide by the law, doesn't always mean that it is a good(one which achieve's it's aim) law.
I'd be a fool if I thought all laws were 'good' by being a law. Again, there seems to be a misunderstanding that by presenting an unvarnished fact that I must agree with it or approve; in this case, as 43-2195, I agree we have a law that is counter to the best interest of preservation, and effectively remuneration and reward to those in PNG with an interest in the wrecks. But it's still the law.
(Just because I prefer facts over wishing and don't winge doesn't mean I like
And nothing will be achieved if the correct processes are not followed. However it was private money and passionate individuals who recovered the P-39 from the Russian Lake and the "Swamp Ghost" from a PNG swamp.
Indeed. And let's remember it was the RAAF
that recovered a bunch of A-20s and Bostons and restored two which are now on display, one on a promise to return to PNG under suitable circumstances. Both private enterprise and official bodies can and have had roles to play with preservation. I think two following good points are that the days of 'pirate' or imperial recoveries are over, and that today best chance is a public-private partnership, of some degree.
Mark, I have been in three different countries since I first posted on this thread. I know two Australian sheep station owners who are members of this Forum, as well as several property developers and a number of Airline pilots(like myself) who are members. I know a P-47 owner, 3 P-40 owners and a P-51 owner(syndicated, I think) who definitely read this forum and are probably registered members. So I think stereotyping a WIX member, would be a mistake.
We are all three well aware of the diversity of membership from personal experience - but WIX simply isn't necessary to provide data like a co-ordinate; as I said earlier, those that need (really want) to know that data can get it; I don't have it, but any serious request to me (or several others here) would (as it has in the past) get my best help, and data such as those co-ordinates.
We are all dissappointed that vandlism has occurred on the "Desert Sentinel" and we are all even more concerned that further vandalism will take place.
Couldn't we, the WIX members offer funding to the El Alemein War Museum to professionally recover the aircraft. That way any red tape would be egyptian to egyptian, with no foreign influence. How much could such a recovery cost? Trucks, fuel, workers, food, accomodation, all for one week ........$30,000. Once the machine is safely in the museums custody, then negotiations for it's future could begin. At least we would be doing something constructive.
It's a good idea. WIX has an excellent track record up to a point (I'm thinking of 'Old 927's guns) but I suspect it's a degree of magnitude too big. But having said that, I'd be prepared to pitch in with formal support and some cash. I'd like to see all those who've been keen to critique the locals and other WIX posters prove money where mouths are and do the same. I'd like to hear what Mark (Shepsair) may have to say, and if there is any way of smoothing the progress to getting the aircraft protected pro-tem.