Warbird Information Exchange

has anybody ever recovered a crashed b-18 bolo?? while not 1 of the more exciting birds, & a below par performer, the type is pertinent to ww 2 aviation history on the east coast of the u.s. & canada, carribbean & panama canal area in anti sub patrol, as well as a short operational life in the phillipines at the start of the war. i'm just curious because this is one of the rarer bombers of the war. i know some are in museums in the u.s., but i want to know about any recovered crashes of 1. regards, tom

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tom d. friedman - hey!!! those fokkers were messerschmitts!! * without ammunition, the usaf would be just another flying club!!! * better to have piece of mind than piece of tail!!

I was thinking the same thing, sort of. Just recently someone said that a recovery effort was underway to retrieve that derlict B-18 hanging in the jungle of one of Hawaii's Islands. Would be nice to know the status of that recovery. Here are some shots of the Bolo owned by Asiafan.
http://community.webshots.com/album/150691607cqHpbm?591

Shay
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Semper Fortis

I also have to think that there is still a good possibilty that some are still down in old Mexico derelict.

Shay
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Semper Fortis

The B-18 turret in a museum on the West Coast was chopped from that B-18 crash on the Island of Hawaii (the Big Island). The damage to the rest of the plane from that relic "recovery" may preclude proper recovery.
Aloha,
David Aiken

From my understanding the retractable doral turret from that Bolo now reside in the B-18 at the NMUSAF.

Shay
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Semper Fortis

The B-18 "blank" crashed in Hawaii...and the (USAF) Museum has a B-18A. Sadly, for all the salvor's research done (seemingly none), the B-18 "blank" turret would not fit IN the B-18A.

There was also a B-18 crash in Guatemala, in the jungle areas of Ixcan; this was more than 40 years ago, and I have no idea as to the severity of the crash or if there are any remains; coordinates are also unknown.

This is one of those iffy locations; there was a lot of guerrilla activity back in the 1970-1980s, and some areas were heavily mined; the United Nations reportedly removed all the mines, but . . .


Saludos,


Tulio

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Why take the best part of life out of your life, when you can have life with the best part of your life in your life?

I am one of them 'futbol' people.

Will the previous owner has pics of this double cabin sample

GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Press "1" for English.
Press "2" to disconnect until you have learned to speak English.

Sooooo, how am I going to know to press 1 or 2, if I do not speak English????

I have always thought that a B-18 and B-23 would be really neat on the airshow sene.

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Michael Luther
Yankee Air Museum's
Air Show Director
THUNDER OVER MICHIGAN

David,

I presume that your reference to "blank" is because according to the older historians, neither the B-18 or B-23 were called by the aforementioned names? The names given to both the B-18 and B-23 were nicknames given to the planes much later in life, thus they should only be called a B-18 or B-23. Just for historical purposes.

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Roger Cain
www.sfahistory.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Stearman/


We must limit politicians to two terms:
one in office and one in jail.

Why would anyone call a B-23 a "Dragon" if they already new what it could do?

Douglas RB-18B "Bolo", 37-574 (c/n 2574, anti-submarine conversion, previous USA registration NC66281) was registered in Honduras as XH-016, and sold to Mexico on September 1949.

Whereabouts would be greatly appreciated by someone at the NASM.

Cheers,

Amado

Hi Roger,
I used "blank" because very few folk know that there was just a B-18, then a B-18A, etc...so the round nose B-18 (without a letter) is "blank"...or nothing behind the B-18...
HTH,
David

I've been trying to find the serial of this plane for a while; the AAIR site's crash records list B-18 36-446 of the 11th Bombardment Group as having crashed due to engine failure at Waimanu on February 25, 1941 - is this the one?

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

There was a B-18 crash in New Hampshire on January 14 1942.

http://www.lostbirds.com/B18.html

(just as a side note to B-18 crash site, I plan to make the hike up to see it some time)

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tim, i checked out the link. definetely put that hike on your to do list!! looks interesting. what a way to spend an autumn afternoon

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tom d. friedman - hey!!! those fokkers were messerschmitts!! * without ammunition, the usaf would be just another flying club!!! * better to have piece of mind than piece of tail!!