RCAF P-40?
Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:09 am
Hi everyone,
This is my first time posting on this message board so bear with me.
I am trying to hunt down a P-40 I found pictures of online a while back. I'd like to find out if anyone knows it's where-abouts and who owns it now, or if it has even survived. I found the pictures of a P-40 on a website that I can't find anymore, but was lucky enough to save the pictures to my hard drive.
The pictures appear to have been taken in the 1970's or 1980's, and from what I remember from the website I found them on, the pictures were taken in Canada, probably in the west somewhere.
If anyone can help me figure which airplane this was and if it is still around I'd greatly appreciate it.
The two pictures I have are temporarily on my website listed below.
www.geocities.com/daveymac82c/moreflying.html
I wish I could give credit to whoever took them, but honestly have no idea.
Cheers,
David
This is my first time posting on this message board so bear with me.
I am trying to hunt down a P-40 I found pictures of online a while back. I'd like to find out if anyone knows it's where-abouts and who owns it now, or if it has even survived. I found the pictures of a P-40 on a website that I can't find anymore, but was lucky enough to save the pictures to my hard drive.
The pictures appear to have been taken in the 1970's or 1980's, and from what I remember from the website I found them on, the pictures were taken in Canada, probably in the west somewhere.
If anyone can help me figure which airplane this was and if it is still around I'd greatly appreciate it.
The two pictures I have are temporarily on my website listed below.
www.geocities.com/daveymac82c/moreflying.html
I wish I could give credit to whoever took them, but honestly have no idea.
Cheers,
David
Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:53 am
hmmmn, Canada + gimpy rear fuselage + T-6'ish tail = Diemert?
AK940?
P-40 experts step right up....
Note the "Smith Hardware Co." sign and the B-24 cowl face on the fence.
cheers
greg v.
AK940?
P-40 experts step right up....
Note the "Smith Hardware Co." sign and the B-24 cowl face on the fence.
cheers
greg v.
Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:06 am
Yeah, I think that airplane went to Gerry Beck's place for some re-work years ago, but can't remember the details.
Gary
Gary
Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:35 am
This is the Granger Taylor/Bob Diemert P-40/Harvard/York engine combo. It was restored by Diemert and crashed on delivery to Ron Fagen. It was registered N7205A at the time. (It is also interesting that the registry lists N7205A as AK863 but the FAA lists it as AK823.)
After that...well I'm not sure where it is. Some state it was restored by Fagen into N4420K/AK753. That aircraft is currently under restoration. My feeling is that Fagen may have used some of the parts off N7205A on N4420K, maybe the wings, but it appears the fuselage of N7205A is with the Dakota Territory Air Museum.
http://www.dakotaterritoryairmuseum.com./finalgallarypics/curtisp40.jpg
Jim
After that...well I'm not sure where it is. Some state it was restored by Fagen into N4420K/AK753. That aircraft is currently under restoration. My feeling is that Fagen may have used some of the parts off N7205A on N4420K, maybe the wings, but it appears the fuselage of N7205A is with the Dakota Territory Air Museum.
http://www.dakotaterritoryairmuseum.com./finalgallarypics/curtisp40.jpg
Jim
Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:11 am
Welcome to the WIX Dave.
Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:00 pm
At that time it still had a boolingbrook tail on it. My Dad (John Paul) traded the center section and outer wing panels to Granger for some P-40 parts Granger had and only after my Dad went through and took absolutely everything out of them that was useful. Those parts all ended up in the second P-40E that my Dad and his buddies built up and now belongs to Kermit Weeks. He always wondered what was holding the landing gear in it when Deimert rebuilt it.
The wings and center section came off of George Maude's P-40 originally and were the ones that were sawed off. My Dad traded George for them to get all the stuff out of them as I mentioned earlier. There was alot of original P-40 parts in Grangers P-40 but it started out as just a cockpit section that he found in a junk yard and it was just the Cockpit section... firewall back to the rear cockpit. Everything else he put together out of pieces or fabricated. Looked cool on a pole, but was never a P-40.
The wings and center section came off of George Maude's P-40 originally and were the ones that were sawed off. My Dad traded George for them to get all the stuff out of them as I mentioned earlier. There was alot of original P-40 parts in Grangers P-40 but it started out as just a cockpit section that he found in a junk yard and it was just the Cockpit section... firewall back to the rear cockpit. Everything else he put together out of pieces or fabricated. Looked cool on a pole, but was never a P-40.
Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:06 pm
Oh yea..... The center section and wings were in my backyard for a little while with the rest of the P-40's 
Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:56 pm
looks like we have an expert
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Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:03 pm
looks like we have an expert
That would be a correct assumption!
Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:28 pm
Nice picture Jack, but I think Mr. Paul is speaking of Kermit's other P-40...the P-40E N62435 ex-RCAF AL171.
Jim
Jim
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Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:32 pm
Nice picture Jack, but I think Mr. Paul is speaking of Kermit's other P-40
This is the Paul's 'N' flown by J-C who was accurately referred to has an expert on P-40s. I was sent this photo and have no clue when or where.
Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:34 pm
Jack,
Oh duh...I saw OD and the mention of Kermit and though about his TP-40N. I forgot the Pauls have an OD P-40N too. Sorry. I'll remember to engage my brain before speaking next time.
Jim
Oh duh...I saw OD and the mention of Kermit and though about his TP-40N. I forgot the Pauls have an OD P-40N too. Sorry. I'll remember to engage my brain before speaking next time.
Jim
Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:28 pm
Provo, Utah - Summer of 2005...... Johnny Maloney and I brought the two P-40's over for and Airshow. I've been looking for that photo!
Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:31 pm
FYI - I'm hardly the P-40 Expert in the family.
Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:25 pm
Hi and thank you to everyone that got back to me so quickly.
So, as I understand it, the airplane I was looking for was never really an authentic P-40 to begin with. And do I understand that it was purchased and move south of the border to be used for another restoration? Then it was flown as a combination of airframes, then was damaged in an accident? And now the fuselage is now at the Dakota Territory Air Museum?
Thank you very much for all your help guys.
When I hear all this wealth of knowledge it makes me curious to know more about who I'm getting all these responses from.
I'm just a 24 year old aviation nut and I am a member/volunteer/ex-board member of the Canadian Museum of Flight at Langley Airport, BC. If you're interested, our website is www.canadianflight.org.
Well, I think that's enough unintentional advertising.
Thank you again,
David
So, as I understand it, the airplane I was looking for was never really an authentic P-40 to begin with. And do I understand that it was purchased and move south of the border to be used for another restoration? Then it was flown as a combination of airframes, then was damaged in an accident? And now the fuselage is now at the Dakota Territory Air Museum?
Thank you very much for all your help guys.
When I hear all this wealth of knowledge it makes me curious to know more about who I'm getting all these responses from.
I'm just a 24 year old aviation nut and I am a member/volunteer/ex-board member of the Canadian Museum of Flight at Langley Airport, BC. If you're interested, our website is www.canadianflight.org.
Well, I think that's enough unintentional advertising.
Thank you again,
David