A couple of "Exhibit M's" ...

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7555

One's a "Messerschmitt" and one's a "Mitsubishi" ...

Photo states: "With wheels up and propeller bent, this Mitsubishi A6M Japanese Zero carrier-based fighter made its Fort Worth debut Tuesday in a tent just north of City Hall. The plane was shot down on Guadalcanal and is making a nation-wide tour under the auspices of the Marine Corps benefit fund for enlisted men. Note the machinegun still intact in the right wing. Published in The Fort Worth Star-Telegram Morning Edition August 3, 1945." https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery/img/20029115

Photo series states: "Messerschmitt Bf-109E3 of 4./JG26 flown by Uffz. Horst Perez 'White 4'. On 30 September 1940, Horst Perez was supposed to be part of a bomber escort but either he or the bombers missed the rendezvous and, circling north of Eastbourne, his group of Bf-109's were attacked by Spitfires. Making for the coast, the Bf-109s were again intercepted and the cooling system in Perez aircraft was hit. The aircraft came down at East Dean with the undercarriage retracted and without any severe damage. Perez climbed from the cockpit and was shot and wounded in the jaw and hand. Once removed from the crash site, the aircraft was sent to Canada for display during 1941 before traveling to the USA, eventually returning to England some years later.
W.Nr. 1190 of 4./JG26 flown by Uffz. Horst Perez 'White 4' is a Battle of Britain veteran that survives to this day. It currently resides in the Imperial War Museum collection at Duxford, Cambridgeshire."

junkman9096 · **Joined:** Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:44 pm **Posts:** 238

Last photo: those victory marks with the segmented roundels-Dutch? Certainly not Czech.

quemerford · **Joined:** Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:19 pm **Posts:** 1385

First two are Czech kills. This 109 now at Duxford?

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7555

Yes I believe so.

mike furline · **Joined:** Wed May 05, 2004 3:45 pm **Posts:** 2527

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mike furline · **Joined:** Wed May 05, 2004 3:45 pm **Posts:** 2527

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junkman9096 · **Joined:** Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:44 pm **Posts:** 238

quemerford wrote:

First two are Czech kills. This 109 now at Duxford?

Thought that at first but Germany had absorbed Czechoslovakia in 1938, not much opportunity to rack up victories with that. But I thought Dutch insignia was the orange triangles at the time. IDK

Duggy009 · **Joined:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:20 pm **Posts:** 303

The five kill markings belong to the aircraft's previous owner, Hptm. Karl Ebbighausen, who was KIA 16.08.40.

Ebbighausen's five confirmed kills: two Dutch - a Fokker T5 and a Fokker G1 on 13.05.40: One French - a Morane 406 on 18.05.40 and two British - a Spitfire on 24.05.40 and a Battle on 14.06.40.
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Kyleb · **Posted:** Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:31 am

mike furline wrote:

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOedIT8SkRu3odTo07JfJlS69k9EtMYO3zoco93ayhNGEx5M_aQADCgxGxKVz6jQg/photo/AF1QipO3h0_ObGNRRnecrak2tiBphlNlB4o4Uhm27CgH?key=WDhUVEFwUHpoOG03YTk1TWw5RDBQVzhZVW1DRVF3

The link at the top of Mike's post leads to an amazing set of pictures, mostly Lockheed and Burbank related. Awesome stuff!

Archer · **Joined:** Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:13 pm **Posts:** 364

junkman9096 wrote:

quemerford wrote:

First two are Czech kills. This 109 now at Duxford?

Thought that at first but Germany had absorbed Czechoslovakia in 1938, not much opportunity to rack up victories with that. But I thought Dutch insignia was the orange triangles at the time. IDK

Correct, the Dutch Air Force used the orange triangles at the time to avoid confusion. But only for a very short period (October 1939 to May 1940, a bit longer in the Far East) so it is not unrealistic to have a German pilot paint the Dutch roundel on his Bf109. There should be an orange circle in the centre of the roundel (the Czech one doesn't have that), but I guess at that size they may not have bothered including it, or it is too small and/or too close in colour to the rest of the roundel to spot on this photo.

p51 · **Posted:** Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:33 pm

Usually, you had to donate something to get this close to a war trophy during the war.
I can't imagine someone back then seeing something like that in person, in an era where you'd never think you'd get to see something from the war "across the waters", as the old folks called it where my parents were from, in the Blue Ridge area...

Steve Nelson · **Posted:** Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:05 pm

That Zero looks to have been rebuilt with a few original parts and a lot of imagination and creativity.

SN

C VEICH · **Joined:** Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:40 pm **Posts:** 1454

Steve Nelson wrote:

That Zero looks to have been rebuilt with a few original parts and a lot of imagination and creativity.

SN

I was thinking the same thing. Some things just don't look quite right.

quemerford · **Joined:** Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:19 pm **Posts:** 1385

The '109 at Duxford still bears the names on its skin, despite receiving a nicely-painted colour scheme. Sadly this isn't quite the right area to make a direct comparison; it's just forward of the tailplane, right-hand side. I'd love to see if the names visible on the swastika are still visible too.

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7555

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