ZRX61 wrote:
menards wrote:
I think lawyers have officially ruined everything, everywhere. No one chooses to ditch when there are other viable options. Safe to assume that the Avenger was low and slow when the engine stopped making power. Even with no forward or downward visibility, you still going to site your landing spot and put it down, just like you would during your emergency training in a Cherokee. I think the guy is fine, no third party has any claim or loss.
This sheds some light where it most likely isn't welcome:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=mVFwYqueJ58Does it? As far as I know Gryder never talked to Terry or Boggs, but he sure threw them under the bus pretty quick. It is really sad when aviation eats its own for Youtube views. I found it a bit scary that so many commenters on his Youtube just bought everything he said without any critical thinking or for that matter evidence. Maybe that demonstrates why we are in the state we are as a nation.
Full disclosure, I know Terry, like him a lot, and have talked to him about this accident. I went to the crash area and saw the airplane the day it arrived back in Titusville. I don't believe he would provide me false information, so until I see some proof that what Gryder says is the truth, I am not gonna buy it. I am also prepared to accept reality if I have misunderstood the facts. One thing you should also know about Terry, he barely survived a take off fire in a TBM back in 2009. He has skin grafts over 40% of his body. Do you think he would take the risks Gryder accused him of for an airshow?
This accident does need to be discussed and dissected among warbird operators, but the way this was done with the conjecture and incendiary language demonstrates to me that someone must have an axe to grind. I would suggest if you want true analysis of accidents you watch Scott Perdue's Flywire. He hasn't done the TBM but he did do the Collings B-17. No nonsense, no insults and no self promotion.
When it comes to the VAC I don't know too much about it, I met a bunch of the folks after this accident. Most of the movers and shakers are long time professional aviators who have flown about everything. They don't need to cut corners to fly the VAC stuff, they have already done it. The stuff that Gryder is talking about took place way back years ago and the management is pretty much all different from what I can tell. Just like it is all different at the CAF and many others. I can't speak to what happened in the past...but it just seems like a long term hit job to bring forth stuff that happened a decade ago. I wonder if Gryder would appreciate it if someone made a incendiary and sarcastic video about his famous incident with a DC-3 involving the local police department for the world to dissect his mistake, if it was one?
Guys, the warbird movement has got to stop eating their own. Mistakes are gonna happen and we need to strive to clean them up but this video does nothing to do that except further the cause of those who would like to ground us. Gryder talks a good game on the video, but really, why the derogatory language and constant insults in the video? He certainly isn't clean and I am reminded of the Biblical phrase 'he who has no sin can cast the first stone.' I would ask you to all step back and wait to see what the facts are before riding the bandwagon on this video. And while you are at, investigate the man making the video and find out what many in the community really think about him.