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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:22 pm 
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Sometimes it's just hard to express it well.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:14 am 
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airnutz wrote:
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The original post was just fine

The critics just wring all the life outta alotta stuff

It may be fine to a mildly interested fan but if you have a personal connection to the pilot, owner, aircraft, or all of the above...it can make your heart skip a beat. Reading "aircraft down" or "plane crash" are an immediate foreboding prologue. "Belly landing" offers an assurance of low risk before your next "click". If you don't care how personal friends, family, etc. receive devastating news, then by all means blunder on... :wink: I wouldn't wanna be your Mom if Dad has a bad day and you're the reporter... :shock:


I call bull
My parents have read alotta stuff
And didn’t choose to react the way you claim some do

The pics did a pretty clear job of clarifying

Simple as that

Mildly interested “fan” my ass

You cannot answer for everyone

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:47 am 
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Meanwhile a little bit of consideration for one's fellow man goes a long way.

Glad it doesn't look too bad; hope it's back in the air soon because the world needs as many NAA jets as it can get!


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:10 am 
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Plenty of us have real friends flying real airplanes and yeah, it is important to consider how the headline's gonna read. Glad it's just bent metal.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:09 pm 
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Sad to see this happen again to the wonderful FJ Fury. Hopefully it can be repaired relatively quickly and easily.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:15 pm 
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Maybe two new flaps or repair the old ones and in the air again.Not too bad.Is there any kind of gear warning on that type of aircraft?


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Isn’t it also part of ATC responsibility to advise on the state of aircraft U/C whilst they are on finals..?! Or is there no full time ATC?


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Wyvernfan wrote:
Isn’t it also part of ATC responsibility to advise on the state of aircraft U/C whilst they are on finals..?! Or is there no full time ATC?


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Two things:

1) The airport at Richfield is uncontrolled, therefore no ATC.

2) Even if there was an ATC facility, it is not their explicit responsibility to advise aircraft on the status of their landing gear. Now, ATC does have a responsibility to issue "safety alerts", but these don't usually involve undercarriage configurations. Now, some ATC facilities will advise pilots if they see something is wrong, but it's not a requirement and you can't rely on them for your gear check. Ultimately, in the United States at least, the PIC is directly responsible for ensuring the landing gear is down prior to landing.


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Thanks for the reply. Your first answer pretty much answers my question.


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Curiously - for me - I have family that live in the area. We flew into Richfield many times when my grandparents were alive.

Never had any warbirds stop by when I was there. :lol: pop2

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The Army Air Trffic Control routinely transmits a “ check gear down” when we are flying. Fixed wing into their base. I believe they call it on short final approach. It’s probab saved millions of dollars in repairs over the years. I don’t think anyone else has that call out, but I’m not sure .its not a civilian ATC call out.


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The Army Air Trffic Control routinely transmits a “ check gear down” when we are flying. Fixed wing into their base. I believe they call it on short final approach. It’s probab saved millions of dollars in repairs over the years. I don’t think anyone else has that call out, but I’m not sure .its not a civilian ATC call out.

It doesn't really happen at any civilian field I've ever been to.

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I hate to see the FJ get pranged again, no matter the cause. There are so few mid-1950’s jets flying or under restoration, especially USN types, that each scrape cuts deep.....

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My GUMP check

Gear
Undercarriage
Make sure the gear is down
Put gear down


Sorry to hear
Get back in the air soon Rich!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:28 am 
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RyanShort1 wrote:
Plenty of us have real friends flying real airplanes and yeah, it is important to consider how the headline's gonna read. Glad it's just bent metal.


I initially read this as "bent mental," which may be appropriate here.

But your version works as well.

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