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Ontario, OR

Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:26 pm

Made a trip today to Ontario, OR to check on info provided by a co-worker re: warbirds at the airport.

Just before Ontario, and still in Idaho, on I-84 exit 3, there is a guy who has a military surplus vehicle business, and has a Bell OH-58 Kiowa mounted atop a flatbed trailer.

Bell OH-58 7?-15462

Assorted military vehicles (Trucks, refuellers, an M-113 APC, several tracked vehicles for snow operations.)

Upon arrival at the Ontario airport, a pleasant surprise awaited:

Navion N4484K U.S. Army 81484

Lockheed T-33 9462 USAF markings

Lockheed T-33 Fuselage, no wings, no s/n visible

Lockheed T-33 Overall white, inside hangar, no serial visible

DeHavilland DH112 WZ944 N7022H

MiG-15 (Polish LIM something) in light blue and desert sand cammo, no serial visible

GD F-111 no markings

Remains of F-86 Sabre No serial visible

F-86 53-841 / FU841

F4D Skyray?? NASA 708

MiG-21 (Polish LIM something) Red 6611

McDD F-4 Phantom 66-266

LTV A-7D 70-0964

There were also several T-33 wing tip fuel tanks and also several for F-86s, as well as canopies for both aircraft models.

All photos © 2006 Tulio Soto




Went also to McCall ID, to the Smoke Jumpers base, but it was completely snowed over.

That was all, folks!




Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:48 pm

I believe that's the follow-on to the Skyray called the Lancer (?).

Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:10 am


Thank you!!

Now that you mention the name Lancer, it comes back to mind; this seems to be longer and slimmer than the Skyray, doesn't it?




Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:07 am

This is where Fred Ihlenberg killed himself while showing off in his Vampire a few years ago.

Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:52 am

The airplane is a F5D-1 Lancer, one of four built.

http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/Photo/ ... index.html

http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/Photo/ ... 62-128.jpg



Re: ???

Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:35 am

Jack Cook wrote:This is where Fred Ihlenberg killed himself while showing off in his Vampire a few years ago.

Which Vampire was that?


Re: ???

Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:13 am

T J Johansen wrote:
Jack Cook wrote:This is where Fred Ihlenberg killed himself while showing off in his Vampire a few years ago.

Which Vampire was that?


Warbird Directory #4 lists it as J-1152 N152RD...

Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:42 pm

I went back to Ontario today, and managed to have a nice conversation with one of the guys who are working to restore some of the aircraft that I saw a couple of weeks ago.

I was told that the owner of the whole shebang, owns approximately 17 jets, all of them stored in the same airport; he owns and flies a T-28A.

Re: the MiG-15 that I reported: I managed to go in the hangar and see that it actually is a MiG-17 and it has Yugoslavian AF emblem, but no serial visible.

In addition to the aircraft reported above, the following should be of interest:

There is an additional hangar -which I was able to visit today- in which there are three jet aircraft:

An anonymous T-33, that reportedly only needs a good engine to be able to fly again.

An F-86 (51-2826), one of the prototypes for the 20mm cannon installation, and then sent to Korea during the Korean Police Action, showing six kill marks - I was told original paint from the 1950s- that is being restored for static display.

McDD A-4C Skyhawk (Bu 150581) re-painted to represent Blue Angel #1. It is being restored for static display, although it will have an engine and will be capable of taxiing but no take-off, since the runway is too short.

This is one of 11 A-4s that the owner (whose name I am not cleared to publish yet) bought in Arizona, former Singapore AF, that were never delivered but had been stored for many years.

Lastly, the F-111 reported above, was never a military example, but a General Dynamics test airframe.

Eventually, when they have all the permits, planning completed, etc., they will open a museum there.



Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:48 pm

Another nice report. I have details of the following additional aircraft with this collector (sighting dates shown):

722 Douglas TA-4J front fuselage Jul04
Lockheed F-104 ex Jordan? Sep00
62-4344 Republic F-105D cockpit Jun99-Jul04
133351 Grumman S-2A N8110Q Jun99
136719 Grumman S-2A N8115M Jun99-Sep04
(52-9803) Lockheed T-33A spares use, shed Jun99
(MM53-5587) 9-32 Lockheed RT-33A ex AMI, dismantled Jun99
(53-6117) Lockheed T-33A c/n 9738, fuselage Jun99
TR-221 Lockheed T-33A fuselage Jun99
A79-618 DH Vampire T.35 ex RAAF,N11924 Jun99-Sep04
J-1616 DH Venom FB.50 ex Swiss, N202DM Jun99

I'd be grateful if anyone can add anything to the list, even if only to remove aircraft if they have gone elsewhere.
Andy Marden
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