New paint for Madras Maiden

bomberfan · **Posted:** Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:35 am

JohnB wrote:

CAPflyer

I understand the nose differences between the G and F, and I can clearly see they removed the chin turret...my question was, did they change the nose glass?

I appreciate that it would be expensive to buy one or have one made, but I would imagine relatively easy to retrofit.

The nose glass itself appears to be the same one it wore as Madras Maiden. It is a G model, the F is a bit longer and has a parting line that is specific to F models and is not present here. There is a mold that exists for an F model nose, but it doesn't look like they wanted to go that route. It would be a direct bolt on as the general shape of Station 1 remained the same.

Pogo · **Posted:** Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:58 pm

I'm still having trouble believing they even did this -- it's just fantastic as far as I'm concerned.

Please keep those pix coming! :supz:

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warbirdfinder · **Posted:** Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:16 pm

I understand it landed at Page AZ with # 2 shutdown. Possible runaway prop, unable to feather

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:37 pm

So I saw a post recently about how the Erickson P-51 would be also flying with the Liberty Foundation (giving rides I'm assuming). So what's the deal with that anyway? Is the Liberty group just "renting" out the Erickson aircraft for some undisclosed amount of money? I'm surprised they haven't considered utilizing the museum's authentic looking Allison powered 109 and repainting it in Franz Stigler's markings. How compelling of an experience that could be for passengers riding in a B-17 painted as "Ye Olde Pub", being told the story prior to boarding the aircraft, and then have a 109 painted as Stigler's plane, fly alongside and essentially reenact the famous event. Of course, repainting the P-51 in period markings wouldn't hurt either. Does anyone know what fighter groups (if any) were escorting the 379th BG that day? I would imagine they could sell seats for a higher price in the B-17 and P-51 if you packaged the whole thing as an experience.

Warbirdnerd · **Joined:** Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:34 pm **Posts:** 2906

Warbird Kid wrote:

So I saw a post recently about how the Erickson P-51 would be also flying with the Liberty Foundation (giving rides I'm assuming). So what's the deal with that anyway? Is the Liberty group just "renting" out the Erickson aircraft for some undisclosed amount of money? I'm surprised they haven't considered utilizing the museum's authentic looking Allison powered 109 and repainting it in Franz Stigler's markings. How compelling of an experience that could be for passengers riding in a B-17 painted as "Ye Olde Pub", being told the story prior to boarding the aircraft, and then have a 109 painted as Stigler's plane, fly alongside and essentially reenact the famous event. Of course, repainting the P-51 in period markings wouldn't hurt either. Does anyone know what fighter groups (if any) were escorting the 379th BG that day? I would imagine they could sell seats for a higher price in the B-17 and P-51 if you packaged the whole thing as an experience.

Can you sell rides in a CAC CA-17?
Isn’t this the Erickson bird?
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p51regis ... a6839.html

JohnTerrell · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:43 pm

Kinda a conundrum, isn't it? It is officially registered with the FAA as a North American produced P-51D, no different than any other, with the serial number 44-14826 attached (though yes, the provenance of the airframe is that of a CAC-manufactured Mustang, A68-39).

rcaf_100 · **Posted:** Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:09 pm

Warbirdnerd wrote:

Can you sell rides in a CAC CA-17?
Isn’t this the Erickson bird?
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p51regis ... a6839.html

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Kinda a conundrum, isn't it? It is officially registered with the FAA as a North American produced P-51D, no different than any other, with the serial number 44-14826 attached (though yes, the provenance of the airframe is that of a CAC-manufactured Mustang, A68-39).

I asked the same question on the Erickson FB post about selling rides in their 'P-51D', and got this response:

Quote:

Through the Liberty Foundation Exemption, they are allowed to sell rides in our Mustang.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

OD/NG · **Joined:** Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:36 pm **Posts:** 717

rcaf_100 wrote:

Warbirdnerd wrote:

Can you sell rides in a CAC CA-17?
Isn’t this the Erickson bird?
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p51regis ... a6839.html

Quote:

Kinda a conundrum, isn't it? It is officially registered with the FAA as a North American produced P-51D, no different than any other, with the serial number 44-14826 attached (though yes, the provenance of the airframe is that of a CAC-manufactured Mustang, A68-39).

I asked the same question on the Erickson FB post about selling rides in their 'P-51D', and got this response:

Quote:

Through the Liberty Foundation Exemption, they are allowed to sell rides in our Mustang.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There's a very specific reason why all of this is the way it is. If it wasn't like this, Erickson/Liberty Foundation and nobody else would be able to legally sell rides in the aircraft. According to FAA rules, foreign built Mustangs are not allowed to sell rides in the United States.

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