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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:59 pm 
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Hurricane Florence is heading straight to the coast of the Carolinas and is going to cause destruction. While I hope that lives are not lost and property damage is kept to a minimum I can't help but to think about the A-26 Spirit of NC. She is currently sitting outside at the airport in Wilmington NC. Right now it looks like Wilmington is right in the center of the Cone of Uncertainty and could take the brunt of the hurricane. I was there a couple of weeks ago dropping off some passengers and she is still in good condition. However it looks like it has not flown in awhile. Hopefully someone will get her into a hangar there at the airport.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:49 am 
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I suppose that DC-7 will be lost as well. Personally I can't understand having what they do in those areas that are prone to the constant barrage of bad weather, especially since there is no high and dry areas to avoid it.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:25 am 
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How about the USS Yorktown, what preparations will be made there to secure the planes on deck. Does the elevator work so the planes can be moved to the hangar deck?

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Looking at prior hurricanes, they chain all aircraft on the deck down using the required foul weather anchoring plan as designed for the aircraft when they were in active service. Most people forget that CVs usually go THROUGH hurricanes instead of around them, so they have plans for how to arrange the aircraft not below decks and secure them for such conditions. I think when Matthew went through the only aircraft with "damage" was their SH-3 which has fake blades that can't be folded.


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Sisters new home in NC perfectly in line unfortunately. Fingers crossed. Fires in my woods hurricanes in hers. Ugh!

Wishing all the very best to those in harms way. Get out of the way and somewhere safe. Material things mean nothing right now.

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Spirit of NC has been sitting outside / not flown for about 4+ years now.

The owner is a super nice guy but isn't ready to sell it yet.

Currently the props are off of and it's strapped down outside and that's how it will ride the storm out (exactly 7.8 miles from the beach).


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How about the OS2U aboard the North Carolina? Of all the artifacts in the storm's direct path down there, that's the one I'm most concerned about... not a lot of good ways to secure her on the catapault, from what I recall. :?

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Personally I can't understand having what they do in those areas that are prone to the constant barrage of bad weather, especially since there is no high and dry areas to avoid it.
Hurricanes can occur pretty much anywhere on the East coast, which is a massive population concentration. It's not reasonable to say you should keep [insert cool items here] anywhere n that area.
Then, once you head west, you run the risk of tornados, which will for sure kill a plane if it hits one. Can't put old planes there, either, right?
Doesn't leave many places otherwise.

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So, there's this thing called probability, which is the difference between "can occur" and occurs regularly. Some areas of the east coast, indeed some parts of the Carolinas, are much more at risk for serious hurricane and tropical storm damage than other parts. Coastal NC and SC might get a really bad storm once every 10 years that New York, Boston or DC might get once every 100.

Generally, warbird owners and must "museums" don't treat their aircraft and other assets the way you would if you wanted or expected them to be around in 50 or 100 years. They're exposed to higher than necessary risk in order to be convenient to the owner or to visitors. This is not a complaint; that's just the way it is. Luckily, with rare exceptions these storms only do repairable damage.

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For high winds the best place would be a very well built hanger in a mountain and at a minimum of 500 feet above sea level. Or a place that doesn't have huge storms like maybe southern Idaho that is I think about 4k msl.


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Read an article this summer that talked about all these "100 year floods" and "worst disaster ever" events that keep happening far more frequently. The 100 year hurricanes are now happening about every 10 years. The Federal government is studying and proposing reclassifying most coastal areas . Maybe the government and the insurance industry is getting tired of paying out billions only to have companies come back and rebuild the areas even bigger.


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exhaustgases wrote:
For high winds the best place would be a very well built hanger in a mountain and at a minimum of 500 feet above sea level. Or a place that doesn't have huge storms like maybe southern Idaho that is I think about 4k msl.

Then the Yellowstone Caldera finally blows and the tremor reduces your collection of Warbirds to a historic jumble...

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marine air wrote:
Read an article this summer that talked about all these "100 year floods" and "worst disaster ever" events that keep happening far more frequently.


Isn't it supposed to be a Cat. 2 when it makes landfall?


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hurricane_yank wrote:
marine air wrote:
Read an article this summer that talked about all these "100 year floods" and "worst disaster ever" events that keep happening far more frequently.


Isn't it supposed to be a Cat. 2 when it makes landfall?


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