Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:52 pm
Mark Allen M wrote:Joe Kasparoff's P-51C 43-25147, N51PR, Santa Maria, 1994 when he owned it. I attending this get together.
Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:36 pm
p51 wrote:Heck, I know plenty of people who are offended by violence in any form (the types who think violence never solved anything.
Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:00 am
Mark Allen M wrote:Meanwhile back to that Warbird Museum. Are atheists allowed entry?
Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:47 am
Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:57 am
Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:52 pm
p51 wrote:I'm not religious at all, but you simply can't ignore that religion and military history go hand in hand. No atheists in foxholes, if you will.
Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:56 pm
Mark Allen M wrote:Meanwhile back to that Warbird Museum. Are atheists allowed entry?
Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:18 pm
ZRX61 wrote:
Putting aside everyone's beliefs or lack of for a moment:
They may run into issues with any Govt grants/donations etc owing to the Establishment Clause of the First...even of it's something as simple as basic infrastructure like putting in a new access road ferinstance... but apart from that I don't see any problems.
Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:48 pm
Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:54 am
Dan K wrote:Actually, if this museum is registered as a charitable organization, it cannot be denied government funding that would be available to any other charitable organization. There is no limitation based on religious affiliation. The only limitation is that government funds may not be used for religious materials.
Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:20 am
Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:14 am
ZRX61 wrote:Mark Allen M wrote:Meanwhile back to that Warbird Museum. Are atheists allowed entry?
I'd confuse the heck out of them. I am both an atheist & an ordained member of the clergy
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:08 pm
Noha307 wrote:I was curious what everyone's opinions of the Mid America Flight Museum were. They're a relatively new museum, so I don't I have a lot of history to go on, but from what I've seen so far, there's a couple of things of which I'm not a fan.
First, the "motto" of their museum is "For God & Country". I'm not here to start a discussion on the rightness or wrongness of religion – I have no problem with people believing whatever they want – but supporting or visiting the museum would make me feel uncomfortable. I think it's wrong for a museum to be involved in what I see as a form of evangelism.
Secondly, while I have to give them props for the frequency with which they put out excellent videos on their YouTube channel, they recently posted a three videos (1, 2, 3) that seemed to me to be essentially an infomercial for someone's cleaning product. Again, I have no problem with aviation museums thanking their sponsors – it's a necessary part of funding – but these extended demos came off as blatant product placement.
Does anyone else find fault with these things, or am I making a stink out of nothing?
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:51 pm
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:56 pm
Mark Allen M wrote:Tim that's just from one dude and it's usually only one dude who has some sort of Warbird problem every now and then. The rest of us who have posted in this thread seem to feel it's much ado about nothing. I can also say with a bit of confidence that several Warbird owners frequent, and old posters still frequent, this forum. H*ll many of my PM's come from owners, restorers and pilots. They're here and they always have been here. How else are they going to find out who's talking sh*t about their airplane(s) ... seriously, many folks in the deep Warbird world (me not included) find value here on WIX in their own ways and we novices find value in them. They may not post much for various reasons of their own, but most aren't naive either. They know how internet forums work. They also know that 99% of us greatly appreciate all they do and wish them the very best.
This is one of the reasons I still can't seem to stick to my own personal banning (exile) from this kooky internet forum. lol