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Re: B-25's of the 345th Bomb Group 'Air Apaches' ...

Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:00 pm

Not sure who this P-40 belongs to but it's an interesting color scheme never-the-less

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4623/391 ... 2fa7_h.jpg


Is that an RNZAF red/white/blue fin flash on the P40?

Re: B-25's of the 345th Bomb Group 'Air Apaches' ...

Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:28 am

seagull61785 wrote:
Not sure who this P-40 belongs to but it's an interesting color scheme never-the-less

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4623/391 ... 2fa7_h.jpg


Is that an RNZAF red/white/blue fin flash on the P40?


49th Fighter Group, Darwin, summer of '42.

Re: B-25's of the 345th Bomb Group 'Air Apaches' ...

Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:14 am

Agreed - 8th Fighter Squadron 49th Fighter Group - Lt Barnett's aircraft, possibly taken at Strauss Strip.

Buz

Re: B-25's of the 345th Bomb Group 'Air Apaches' ...

Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:51 pm

Jim Rice and I crewed on Iron Laden Maiden. She was a great flyer and loads of fun. Too bad she is now in the Liberal Kansas Museum.

Re: B-25's of the 345th Bomb Group 'Air Apaches' ...

Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:16 pm

Thank you for the P40 clarification guys.

Barry

Re: B-25's of the 345th Bomb Group 'Air Apaches' ...

Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:04 pm

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Re: B-25's of the 345th Bomb Group 'Air Apaches' ...

Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:06 pm

Slight thread drift ahead. Seeing how colorful and unique their artwork was, did anyone determine if there was a psychological affect on the enemy crews?

Mark Allen M wrote:

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Re: B-25's of the 345th Bomb Group 'Air Apaches' ...

Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:07 pm

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Re: B-25's of the 345th Bomb Group 'Air Apaches' ...

Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:24 pm

I would guess more for the B-25 crews. Like having a lucky charm with you.

Phil

Re: B-25's of the 345th Bomb Group 'Air Apaches' ...

Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:02 pm

Tim L wrote:Slight thread drift ahead. Seeing how colorful and unique their artwork was, did anyone determine if there was a psychological affect on the enemy crews?



No one really knows for sure, but I'll bet that the Japanese were not easily intimidated. Anybody with a cultural basis that had no compunction whatsoever about giving up their lives so easily would probably not be phased too much. Remember, the average Japanese solider would commit seppuku, rather than live in defeat. Also, consider the kamikazes.

My guess is that the ornate artwork was done more for Allied morale than anything else. Morale is the original reason that nose-art was authorized in the first place on the combat lines. There were regulations against it, but the rules were relaxed to keep the troops happy. Even though there were examples of nose art in the Stateside units, it was much less prevalent and much more tame.

Re: B-25's of the 345th Bomb Group 'Air Apaches' ...

Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:41 am

The main demoralizer was the 50 cal MGs cutting through the aircraft and airfield installations. Japanese pilots also had a healthy respect for the B-25s armament. Down on the deck the dorsal turret and waist NGs could hold off most fighter attacks.

D.
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