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Re: Derelicts at China Lake

Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:09 pm

sandiego89 wrote:I think we avoid posting direct links to the Ocotillo site to avoid unwelcome ground visitors. It can be found perusing Google maps. Neat once you find it, you can see the B-29 fuselages and de-mated wings. PM sent to you Clifford.


I understand ground visitors to that site have been a real pain. Still, I would love to access it for a time!

Re: Derelicts at China Lake

Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:10 am

The "museum" compound at China Lake currently contains the aircraft listed below.
Those visiting the airshow in March drove out right past it.
Forgive the cut and paste.

Andy
USAMOOS

00 Douglas A-4A cockpit Jan08 Mar17
156640 AC/602 Rockwell RA-5C RVAH-12 Aug79 May17
159312 604 Grumman A-6E ex NAWC-AD Oct96 May17
(162203) 612 Grumman A-6E ex NAWC-AD Oct96 May17
44-70102 Boeing B-29A “Here’s Hopin” no tail 06 May17
52-2669 Boeing C-97K Apr74 May17
(12431) Douglas NC-117D NARL N31310 Jan79 May17
(17156) Douglas C-117D NARL N722NR Jan79 May17
150468 35 McD QF-4N Oct96 May17
145528 105 Vought DF-8L Nov93 May17
Grumman F-14 on belly Oct11 Mar17
NA F-86F fuselage Jan08 May17
NA F-86F fuselage Jan08 May17
NA F-86F fuselage Jan08 Mar17
NA F-86F fuselage Jan08 Mar17
NA F-86F fuselage Jan08 Mar17
152715 GD F-111B Jun71 May17
# 8 Lockheed QT-33A orange c/s cockpit Jan08 May17
(150989) Rockwell T-39D Apr86 May17
59-2873 ED Rockwell T-39B Jan08 May17

Re: Derelicts at China Lake

Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:30 am

There is also another B-29 out on the range.... according to historic aerials...its been in the same spot since 1972... albeit missing a few parts.

https://goo.gl/maps/tePkaW3bpho

Re: Derelicts at China Lake

Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:02 pm

menards wrote:There is also another B-29 out on the range.... according to historic aerials...its been in the same spot since 1972... albeit missing a few parts.

https://goo.gl/maps/tePkaW3bpho


It should be 44-62134, the white-painted one that was on Echo range.

Erratum: it's this one: TB-29-75-BW s/n 44-70102 '84'.

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Re: Derelicts at China Lake

Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:06 pm

I suspect the chances of getting the engines off of the C-97 approach 0% huh?

Re: Derelicts at China Lake

Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:57 pm

A third B-29 at China Lake...looks like it was blown up.

https://goo.gl/maps/8f3Ji9JAMsT2

Re: Derelicts at China Lake

Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:39 pm

menards wrote:A third B-29 at China Lake...looks like it was blown up.

https://goo.gl/maps/8f3Ji9JAMsT2


That's the SB-29 on Airport Lake. Yes, it got blown up, it was slated for saving, but some bomb jockey hit it anyway. At least that's what I was told. The cockpit section vanished right about the time Doc was moved off base...

Re: Derelicts at China Lake

Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:40 pm

Sure that isn't the Kee Bird?

Re: Derelicts at China Lake

Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:52 pm

menards wrote:A third B-29 at China Lake...looks like it was blown up.

https://goo.gl/maps/8f3Ji9JAMsT2


'Here's Hopin' was here as well, & maybe a 3rd B-29 as well (I could be wrong, memory ain't what it used to be) this was back when Google satellite images first appeared

Re: Derelicts at China Lake

Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:56 pm

old iron wrote:Sure that isn't the Kee Bird?

Looks a little warm and dry for Greenland :wink:

Re: Derelicts at China Lake

Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:25 pm

m50a1ontos wrote:
menards wrote:A third B-29 at China Lake...looks like it was blown up.

https://goo.gl/maps/8f3Ji9JAMsT2


That's the SB-29 on Airport Lake. Yes, it got blown up, it was slated for saving, but some bomb jockey hit it anyway. At least that's what I was told. The cockpit section vanished right about the time Doc was moved off base...


Cockpit section went to Inyokern for a museum there. It was SB-29-70-BW s/n 44-69957 - seen here circa 1987:

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Re: Derelicts at China Lake

Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:34 pm

old iron wrote:Sure that isn't the Kee Bird?


Pretty sure the Kee Bird is in Greenland and not California.

Re: Derelicts at China Lake

Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:39 pm

Chris Brame wrote:
old iron wrote:Sure that isn't the Kee Bird?

Looks a little warm and dry for Greenland :wink:


Global warming...

Phil

Re: Derelicts at China Lake

Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:57 pm

quemerford wrote:
m50a1ontos wrote:
menards wrote:A third B-29 at China Lake...looks like it was blown up.

https://goo.gl/maps/8f3Ji9JAMsT2


That's the SB-29 on Airport Lake. Yes, it got blown up, it was slated for saving, but some bomb jockey hit it anyway. At least that's what I was told. The cockpit section vanished right about the time Doc was moved off base...


Cockpit section went to Inyokern for a museum there. It was SB-29-70-BW s/n 44-69957 - seen here circa 1987:

Image


That cockpit left with Doc. The "museum" in Inyokern isn't there anymore. It folded up and vanished right after Doc left.

Re: Derelicts at China Lake

Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:01 am

I'd like to see a "street view" of the OV-10 in the NE corner and the P-3 to the SW.
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