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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:10 am 
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Pat Rodgers of Murrieta, CA announced on Facebook on January 1 that he bought Hill Aerospace Foundation's Martin B-26 Marauder 40-1370. According to Pat, 40-1370 includes the crushed forward nose section, fuselage, and a partial wing. The collection also includes the forward fuselage section of B-26B 41-31748 and a center section from an unknown Marauder.

Pat has written that his plan is to rebuild the Marauder to flying condition. Its a huge task that will take years, as he needs a new set of wings and many components that need fabricating, but I hope he's able pull it off! All pics here are by Pat Rodgers.

ImageB-26B_41-31748_station63_Pat Rodgers_1.7.17 by Christopher Wilkinson, on Flickr

ImageB-26B_41-31748_Pat Rodgers_1.2.17_1 by Christopher Wilkinson, on Flickr

ImageB-26B_41-31748_station63_Pat Rodgers1.16.17_1 by Christopher Wilkinson, on Flickr

ImageB-26B_41-31748_station63_Pat Rodgers1.16.17_2 by Christopher Wilkinson, on Flickr

ImageB-26B_41-31748_station63_Pat Rodgers1.16.17_3 by Christopher Wilkinson, on Flickr

ImageB-26B_41-31748_bulkhd 156_Pat Rodgers_2.4.17 by Christopher Wilkinson, on Flickr

ImageB-26B_41-31748_bulkhd 156_Pat Rodgers_1.30.17 by Christopher Wilkinson, on Flickr

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:38 am 
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Thats awesome, thanks. :drink3: :drink3:

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Best of luck to him! Was the work so far done to airworthy standards?

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Chris Brame wrote:
Was the work so far done to airworthy standards?


According to Pat's responses on Facebook, all the work being done now and in the future shall be to airworthy standards.

Btw, 40-1370 is the oldest surviving Marauder airframe, to my knowledge. Hopefully Pat will post some pics of the airframe components he has. No images of 40-1370 have been publicly posted as far as I know.

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Thanks for posting the photos! I had tried to post some earlier, but alas, I am computer challenged...

Yes, everything is being done to airworthy standards.
Yes, it needs a LOT.
and Yes, its a lot of fun!

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So, is this a B-26-MA or a B-26A?

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Wow! Bravo Pat! Definitely one to watch.

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I'm glad someone has taken interest in a flyable B-26!

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wingsandrotorspilot wrote:
Thanks for posting the photos! I had tried to post some earlier, but alas, I am computer challenged...

Yes, everything is being done to airworthy standards.
Yes, it needs a LOT.
and Yes, its a lot of fun!

Pat

Thanks for joining the conversation Pat, it is appreciated!

A few questions for you:

1) Is it true that there are no blueprints or engineering drawings for the Martin B-26 Marauder? I've heard they were destroyed years ago - fire, flood?

2) If # 1 is true, are there enough parts out there that you can "reverse engineer" a complete, flyable B-26 without the use of blueprints/drawings?


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wingsandrotorspilot wrote:
Thanks for posting the photos! I had tried to post some earlier, but alas, I am computer challenged..Pat

Hi Pat, Chris Wilkinson here. I took the initiative without asking, but thought that many of those here that don't do Facebook might appreciate the pictures and good news of your acquisition and work. I added your moniker to the pics to keep it on the up and up.
Anything for the cause!

For others here, Pat has posted his restoration updates on the Facebook page of "B-26 Marauder", which seems to be a great place for enthusiasts, veterans and family members to catch up on B-26 info. Pat's posts have gotten pretty popular on their page...

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Pogmusic wrote:
So, is this a B-26-MA or a B-26A?

Its a B-26-MA. Pat could tell you more, but to my understanding 40-1370 is the oldest existing B-26 airframe and among the first 100 airframes to come off the assembly line.

The next five oldest known airframes:
B-26-MA 40-1426 "DIXIE" was partially excavated but left in place in Papua New Guinea about 4 years ago.
B-26-MA 40-1453 nose only, recovered from Watson Lake, Canada in 2010 but seized by Canadian authorities.
B-26-MA 40-1459 at MAPS Museum in Akron, Ohio. Tallichet owned.
B-26-MA 40-1464 wings and fuselage and the nose of B-26-MA 40-1459. Kermits Weeks.
Pima Aerospace is also an amalgamation of several airframes, including the wings from 40-1501. My understanding is that the nose section is B-26B 41-31856 and the center and tail section is unknown. Tallichet owned.

After that is B-26B 41-31773 "Flak Bait". AFAIK, there are no B-26A airframes in existence. If there's something incorrect in what I write here, please correct me!

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The Pima one has the center section and aft section from a B or C model also. They are from the movie studio/Tallichet. They have the wings off of 40-1501 as I recall. I am going to Pima next week to discuss a possible collaboration of resources, so to speak...


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wingsandrotorspilot wrote:
The Pima one has the center section and aft section from a B or C model also. They are from the movie studio/Tallichet. They have the wings off of 40-1501 as I recall. I am going to Pima next week to discuss a possible collaboration of resources, so to speak...

Approaching Pima for some kind of collaboration I think has a great deal of merit. Its my opinion that it's this kind of approach that gets any kind of project moving in the right direction. Pima's work on their B-26 has stalled out for some reason, so they may very well welcome some kind of mutually beneficial assistance to get their project going again. It gets two restoration projects of the same rare aircraft up and going. Hopefully the Tallichet family see it as a win-win too and give their blessing. They own fully 33% of the worlds existing complete B-26 airframes, and at one time owned 50% when they also owned Kermits machine.

Many of us here know that Kermit Weeks assisted Aero Traders recent restoration of Rod Lewis' A-20 by providing the center section of his A-20G for copying duplicate parts for Rod's A-20. Since many of the components you need don't exist, I'm hoping the same happens for you by them sharing access to their B-26.

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TriangleP wrote:
Hi Pat, Chris Wilkinson here. I took the initiative without asking,but thought that many of those here that don't do Facebook might appreciate the pictures and good news of your acquisition and work. I added your moniker to the pics to keep it on the up and up.
Anything for the cause!


I'm in that "don't (refuse to) do Facebook" crowd. Thanks for the nod and posting up the pics/story!!


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wingsandrotorspilot wrote:
Thanks for posting the photos! I had tried to post some earlier, but alas, I am computer challenged...

Yes, everything is being done to airworthy standards.
Yes, it needs a LOT.
and Yes, its a lot of fun!

Pat


Pat,

Do you have a set of landing gear for the B-26?

And, as far as WIX goes, perhaps this deserves "Sticky" status at the top of the first page. This is a huge restoration project, both in scope of what needs to be done.....and in what becomes the end product.


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