Warbird Information Exchange

Always interesting what's still 'out there' to be found. I won't be surprised if someday some of those Burma spitfires are found as well. Keep digging folks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSDAonD_udo
"23 October 2014 members of the 'Museum Deelen Airbase' near Arnhem found a Messerschmitt 262 in a farm field near Deelen airbase, Arnhem in the Netherlands. This 262 was shot down on the 12 of September 1944 near the village Elden. The pilot Uffz. Schauder was killed. The Germans took the wreckage to Deelen. They dumped the plane in a bomb crater to hide it. This 262 was the first jet ever to crash in the Netherlands".

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Unit: l.KG-51
Cause: Shot down by flak
Wk Nr: 130126
A/C ID: 9K+AL
Pilot: Uffz Herbert Schauder
Date: September 12, 1944

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Great , Cool Video Mark A ! The Jonny Quest theme song kept playing in my head as I watched!

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Wow. I agree -- there's still a LOT out there to be found and recovered. Great detective work by these guys.

Downed by flak? Would have it been a friendly fire incident as the Allies hadn't started Operation Market-Garden yet.

The other thing I noticed was how fertile the Dutch soil appears...you have nice, dark topsoil going almost a yard down. I'm so used to dealing with the red clay soil in Maryland (which is pretty nasty to dig through as well) that it looks like the topsoil you buy at a lawn & garden center by comparison.

Great find, but I guess it won't be flying by Xmas!

they should change the title too, crashed and ruined and burned and rusted warbird remains dumped into a hole recently dug up....lol

thanks for posting.very neat find.

Mark thanks for the post. Very cool. Who knows, maybe someday someone here will "dig" something up!

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Warbird salvage/recovery
One day I'll get that P-40!

A couple weeks back a B-24J Liberator was found in the Italian mountains with crew remains. I 'm surprised no one here mentioned it.

Apparently, it was. Russian front anyone?

Hey that's a great looking Spitfire.

O wait, sorry too soon? Well just incase anyone wondered what a buried Spitfire would look like.

my eyes popped out when I saw this post. the 1st relic found looks like the nose gear, but I can't verify

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tom d. friedman - hey!!! those fokkers were messerschmitts!! * without ammunition, the usaf would be just another flying club!!! * better to have piece of mind than piece of tail!!

Didn't realize the Russkies had made it all the way to Holland in 1944.

Elden is just south of Arnhem, on the same north/south road that Market-Garden had hinged itself upon. Deelen is just to the north of Arnhem and still extant as an airbase today. My guess is the Germans moved the wreckage when Market-Garden started to make sure it didn't fall into the hands of the Allies, and then buried it to make sure it "disappeared".

Seems to be true about flak bringing it Down. Allegedly anyway.
Plenty of photos here. Slow loading website on my end though.
http://www.museumvlbdeelen.nl/me-262-fotos-opgraving/

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Thanks again for posting.

Does anyone know how many original 262's are still left in the world ? Do the Russians still have any ?

I always hope that at some point a large amount of warbird purchases or trades with communist countries will take place in the future to recover as many WW2 aircraft as possible that are being neglected or are in storage. The P-47 sitting outside the Chinese air museum comes to mind first.