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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:45 pm 
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anyone know what happened, seems just a couple of hours ago, if i am reading the report correctly

http://www.wafb.com/story/26739704/single-engine-plane-runs-off-runway-at-baton-rouge-airport?clienttype=generic&mobilecgbypass

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anyone know what happened, seems just a couple of hours ago, if i am reading the report correctly


Looks like they wanted a easy way to clean the underside, but they could have picked a better place to do it.


Most likely had a brake lock up or the pilot landed long and got on the brakes too had, other than engine and prop, minor damage,

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Not that I trust the media, but "abort the flight" makes me think of taking off rather than landing.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:41 am 
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Boy these Flug Werk 190s have not been keeping a good track record. How many incidents have we seen so far? Got to be like five or six individual events. Glad to see the event was minor. Hope to see this 190 back up and flying soon.

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Looks like it ran off the end of the runway into crushed stone which is designed to sink into and slow an A/C. Probably what put it up on the nose.
Visible prop blades show little or no damage so engine probably either had quit or was shut off.
Flaps are up so maybe an aborted take off?
Glad the pilot was uninjured and sorry to see the A/C damaged but looks pretty minor.

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Yeah she's in the EMAS (Engineered Materials Arresting System). It's frangible concrete, you can walk on it but anything heavier and it starts to break up and clutch at the wheels of a runaway plane until it stops. EMAS is designed and calibrated for a certain size and speed of plane (ours is a 727 at 70 kts). Stuff has an amazing fatality prevention rate--only recorded injury to an airliner that hit one was when a flight attendant sprained her ankle jumping out of a plane that stopped in one.

But it isn't designed for high-legged traditional gear planes. I'd guess something happened on takeoff and he was just along for the ride once he ran out of runway. EMAS is designed to be really thin at the start, then get progressively thicker, so once the plane slowed down she just tipped up.

Glad he's ok, and the plane will definitely be fly able.


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Yeah she's in the EMAS (Engineered Materials Arresting System). It's frangible concrete, you can walk on it but anything heavier and it starts to break up and clutch at the wheels of a runaway plane until it stops. EMAS is designed and calibrated for a certain size and speed of plane (ours is a 727 at 70 kts). Stuff has an amazing fatality prevention rate--only recorded injury to an airliner that hit one was when a flight attendant sprained her ankle jumping out of a plane that stopped in one.

But it isn't designed for high-legged traditional gear planes. I'd guess something happened on takeoff and he was just along for the ride once he ran out of runway. EMAS is designed to be really thin at the start, then get progressively thicker, so once the plane slowed down she just tipped up.

Glad he's ok, and the plane will definitely be fly able.


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That is an excellent explanation! Thanks.


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You're quite welcome my friend. I did part of my master's thesis on them, so I became an unwilling expert!

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Wow, such excellent stuff! Pilot OK (hate to see a plane pranged but pilot OK makes it OK), and learned about EMAS. 8)

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Boy these Flug Werk 190s have not been keeping a good track record. How many incidents have we seen so far? Got to be like five or six individual events. Glad to see the event was minor. Hope to see this 190 back up and flying soon.


According to thier website, this is actually a restored original Focke Wulf, albeit with a Russian engine and some support from Flug Werk.

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Steve Nelson wrote:
Warbird Kid wrote:
Boy these Flug Werk 190s have not been keeping a good track record. How many incidents have we seen so far? Got to be like five or six individual events. Glad to see the event was minor. Hope to see this 190 back up and flying soon.


According to thier website, this is actually a restored original Focke Wulf, albeit with a Russian engine and some support from Flug Werk.

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I believe it's a FlugWerk fuselage with restored original wings and maybe a few original parts.

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Flugwerk aircraft with some minor original parts and data plate from a crashed aircraft.

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Flugwerk aircraft with some minor original parts and data plate from a crashed aircraft.


From what I heard, the samething was done with the French one : a few part of the tailwheel came from an original Fw190, but without the dataplate.

No to be sarcastic, but at the start of the FW190, one of the argument was "new planes are more reliable than 70 years old ones". humm...

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Iclo wrote:
DaveM2 wrote:
Flugwerk aircraft with some minor original parts and data plate from a crashed aircraft.


From what I heard, the samething was done with the French one : a few part of the tailwheel came from an original Fw190, but without the dataplate.

No to be sarcastic, but at the start of the FW190, one of the argument was "new planes are more reliable than 70 years old ones". humm...


The initial 12 Flugwerk replicas were all given wartime original tail wheel units that had been found in storage.

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I was never clear on the whole Flugwerk thing, and/or the origins of the FW 190's that are out there today, wonder if one of you knowledgeable sorts could kindly give a brief overview of the story? I'm on the road at present and have no time to research it myself.

And is it Flug Werk or Flugwerk? FW190, FW 190, or FW-190?

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