Warbird Information Exchange

I believe there is a PBY Catalina in Lake Mead that hasn't been found yet. Did you also consider the B-29 "Lady of the Lake" in AK and the one in Lake Mead?

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Bicycle Lake in California is a dry lake if I'm not mistaken...

Here is an extensive article on the B-24L in Lake Pepin-
https://www.minnpost.com/earth-journal/ ... epin-where

Can't find any fresh water F-86A/E/F or H, but here are three F-86Ds:

52-4182 - 62nd FIS; w/o 10Oct56 in Lake Michigan, 47 miles NE of Milwaukee, WI after mid-air with 52-4194, Capt Carlton Ova Berry ejected but body not found

52-4194 - 62nd FIS; w/o 10Oct56 in Lake Michigan, 47 miles NE of Milwaukee, WI after mid-air with 52-4182, 2/Lt Kenneth Richard Hughes ejected and picked up after 3 hours in water

53-735 - 1st FIW; w/o 26Sep59, disappeared over Lake Huron, 1/Lt Jay T. Grafmiller (killed/missing?)

P-39 air racer "Cobra I" crashed into Lake Ontario, 1946. But reported as "......crashed into the water, breaking apart upon impact."

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First number is date in year-month-day?

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On Sunday, December 8, 1940, a Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) Fairey Battle Mk I took off on a routine gunnery training exercise from No. 4 Bombing & Gunnery School (B&GS) at Air Station Fingal, Ontario. At the controls of aircraft No. 1650 was Flying Officer (FO) Leon Arthur Hood from St. Joseph, Missouri. Hood's two fellow crew members that day were drogue operators, Aircraftsmen 2nd Class (AC2) Airman John Henry McNally age twenty from Minaki, Ontario and twenty-five year old Ernest William Bourne from Oshawa, Ontario. Hood pointed the lumbering single-engined Battle southeast toward the assigned training area located a few miles offshore from the village of Port Stanley, Ontario. The aircraft, trailing an aerial target, was last seen at 1015 hours over Lake Erie. It was observed, by the crew in a trailing Battle, to fly into a fog bank from which it never emerged.

From my forthcoming book "American RCAF Warriors."

Cheers,

Tom Walsh.

B 25 ran out of fuel trying to make landing at Allegheny Co airport ditched in Mon River down stream of Braddock Pa just missing the Homestead High Level bridge. 2 killed 3 swam to shore think 1957. Bodies airplane never found big local legend to this day.

Surprised this list doesn't have Sebago Lake, ME. O maybe I missed it? There is a TBM Avenger, three F4U Corsairs and I think one of the Grumman twin engine amphibians. Two of the Corsairs were Fleet Air Arm and ditched after colliding. They are considered war graves and as such are under USN control on behalf of the British government. A video a few years ago showed a remarkable state of preservation. The TBM ditched intact and the crew escaped. It has never been found. The lake can be over 200 feet deep.

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My FIL was a 1st Lt. co-pilot assigned to the 380th ARS (380th BW, 4108th SW, 820th Air Division, USAF) at Plattsburgh AFB when that happened. He was stationed there flying the KC-97 from August 1956 until October 1962 when he transitioned to the KC-135A (ground training at Castle AFB in Merced CA and flight training at Walker AFB in Roswell NM) and was re-assigned to the 912th AREFS at Robbins AFB in Warner Robbins, GA. Before the transition to the KC-135, he became an aircraft commander and instructor and "Stan Eval" check pilot in the KC-97 too, which he later did in the KC-135 as well.

He met and married my MIL there in Plattsburgh and we have discussed this very crash before as well. As would be expected, he knew the crew and that crash haunted the unit for quite some time afterward. My wife was eventually born there in Plattsburgh too - in 1961. We drove all the way up there to visit her aunt and uncle about a year ago - and boy, I'm here to tell you that Plattsburgh is a long WAY up there - still a couple hours of drive above Albany, NY, but still a beautiful area. I went to college in NY too, in the center of state closer to Utica and Syracuse, but it was still a bit of a shock to be able to or have to keep driving so far north and still be in the same state.

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Interesting that you classify Lake Pontchartrain in LA as fresh water. At best, it is brackish water.

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Cheers!

Lance Jones

Raf Avro Lincoln bomber in Watson Lake

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Cheers,
Peter

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Peter.....you got me curious.....

Do you have details you could share?????

From another thread about a year and a half ago:

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

great topic, theres a corsair post war in a bay in lake superior i read about years ago,he ditch and survived, so its pretty intach and worth finding......i would venture to say that the craft where the pilot died hit the water soo hard they are probably twisted messes? a list of ditched and surviving crew in fresh water would be gold!