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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:28 pm 
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CV-6 or CV-26?

The pic says CV-6, but the deck says CV-26


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"It's always something" ...

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"felt a draft back there" ...

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"just a tad bit high still" ...

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"hooked it, now come on nose, lower" ...

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"I'm still too high" or am I? ...

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seems we never see japanese photos like this. did they have a similar ratio of accidents on aircraft carrier recovery operations? for the USA, i'd like to know what percentage of captures were accident free. so very many photos leads one to assume accidents were numerous. i'll bet the deckhands got really quick at dealing with cleanup. they got lots of practice!


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The worst carrier landing film I ever saw wasn't WW2, prop or even US and it looks like the pilot did everything correctly:
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On 25 September 1958, Commander John Desmond Russell, Royal Navy, landed a Supermarine Scimitar onto the deck of the HMS Victorious when the arresting wire snapped. The plane rolled off the deck, and Commander Russell died the horrific and terrifying death of being trapped in the cockpit, unable to get the canopy open, as his fighter slowly sank. A diver on a chopper tried to rescue him but it was too late. All while the deck crew and camermen helplessly watch (and film) from above.
As far as I know, he's still inside that cockpit.
This rates as a 10 on the "I don't wanna go out like that" scale.

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The VMTB-143 Avenger that is in the barrier "P87", is the aircraft that the CAF's National Capital Squadron's TBM is supposed to replicate. Not all the markings and stencils have been applied to the plane, yet, although an edited version of the nose art "Doris Mae" has now been applied to the plane (a rather tactfully painted bikini-clad lady instead of the original's nudie). I imagine the remaining markings will be applied after some of the paint on the fuselage gets redone.


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Found these while looking for something else, as usual; credit goes to Louisiana Tech University's archive. A few of USS Guadalcanal's aircraft going awry (these were badly faded and I fixed them as best I could):
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Not sure about these two:
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And a few successful ones, to be fair:
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seems we never see japanese photos like this. did they have a similar ratio of accidents on aircraft carrier recovery operations? for the USA, i'd like to know what percentage of captures were accident free. so very many photos leads one to assume accidents were numerous. i'll bet the deckhands got really quick at dealing with cleanup. they got lots of practice!






excellent question!!!

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As far as I know, he's still inside that cockpit.

About a month later they recovered the forward fuselage with Cdr. Russell still in it. Scroll down half way on the video link page for a 12/12/58 Flight article with a report and follow-up details of the incident.

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tom d. friedman wrote:
their had to be plenty of spare teak wood aboard all carriers of that era when those props chewed through the decks.


My dad was aboard CVE-112 (USS Siboney) and he said that they had a large supply of replacement teak for that reason. In 1947, they were off the Virginia/NC coast and a USMC Reserve unit from Chicago flew their Corsairs out to do their required carrier training. After four or five bad landings chewed up a lot of teak, the captain called off the rest and steamed for home.

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Courier Sportster wrote:
seems we never see japanese photos like this. did they have a similar ratio of accidents on aircraft carrier recovery operations? for the USA, i'd like to know what percentage of captures were accident free. so very many photos leads one to assume accidents were numerous. i'll bet the deckhands got really quick at dealing with cleanup. they got lots of practice!


If the Japanese practices were anything like the Americans, they would have kept a photography department aboard all of their carriers. When the carriers sank, so did the film. For instance, there is a dearth of footage and photos of the Franklin on its ill-fated 1945 war cruise prior to attach which set it afire on March 19th, 1945, as all the photos and films of activities prior to that date were burned up in the fire.

Other pictures and footage could have been destroyed in the raids on the Yokosuka Naval Yard in 1945.


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