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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:01 pm 
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I think there rather pretty :wink: .... and don't miss my next thread solely dedicated to CY and PB :axe:

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B-17 42-32012 Shark Tooth 401st BG 614th BS IW-P

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B-17 Tiger Girl 42-3555 - 12 missions - MIA on Bremen 26 nov 43

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B-24J serial 44-40728 Boise Bronc of the 320th Bomb Sq, 90th BG

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B-26C 42-107582 The Shark (coded RJ-B) of the 454th Bomb Sq, 323rd BG

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Chinese Prepare For The Curtiss P-40 Rose Marie Of The 16Th Fighter Squadron, 51St Fighter Group, For A Mission. China, 21 October 1942

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Colonel David 'Tex' Hill Of Hunt, Texas, Air Ace Of The 'Flying Tigers' Gets Into His Plane Just Before Take Off On A Mission From His Base Somewhere In China. 2 Oct. 45

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Colonel Robert L. Scott, Jr. Commanding Officer Of The 23Rd Fighter Group, Stands Beside His Curtiss P-40 At Kunming, China Before His Departure To the US 4 Jan 1943

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Elizebeth, an unidentified (but colorful) shark-mouthed P-51BC of the 361st FG

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Idiots Delight was a Martin B-26B-10-MA Marauder (sn 41-18292) from the 444th BS, 320th BG, 12th AF

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Lt. Robert Huber Of Sage City, Kansas, The Pilot Of A Liaison Plane For A Field Artillery Unit, Somewhere In France

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Martin B-26C Marauder 42-43304 The Marlin of the 444th BS, 320th BG

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One of the AVG's export Hawk 81s two months after being absorbed into the 23rd FG is seen on short final at Kunming airfield, China

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P-40E serial 41-35402 Hold'n My Own (ship #38) assigned to 1LT Dallas A. Clinger, 16th Ftr Sq, 23rd FG, Kweilin, China

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P-40K assigned to MAJ Edward M. Nollmeyer, commander of the 26th Ftr Sq, 51st FG, Kunming, China

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P-40K King Boogie assigned to CAPT William D. Grosvenor, Jr 75th Ftr Sq, 23rd FG. Beel, as he was nicknamed, was officially credited with five confirmed aerial victories

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Captain Robert Faro on the 20th January 1943

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P38F Lightning (Japanese Sandman II)

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P-51B (serial unknown, ship #261) of the 26th Ftr Sq, 51st FG

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P-51C (serial unknown) assigned to the 26th Ftr Sq, 51st FG as ship #269

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P-51Cs of the 26th Ftr Sq, 51st FG

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September 1943 this shark-mouthed Tomahawk began its life as part of the vaunted American Volunteer Group Flying Tigers

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Shark-mouthed P-38s of the 39th Ftr Sq, 35th FG

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P-51D's no explanation needed

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P-51D's 339th FG

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P-51D's 339th FG

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P-51D of Maj Roy Webb 361st FG

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P-51D of Maj Roy Webb 361st FG

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B-26

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B-26's

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Line up of P-47's

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Gabby's P-47

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Rocket Installations Under The Wings Of A Republic P-47 Of The 353Rd Fighter Group Somewhere In England May 1944

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Bombs Have Been Loaded Under The Wings Of The Republic P-47 Arkansas Traveler Of The 353Rd Fighter Group In Preparation For Its Participation In The D-Day Invasion, 6 June 1944

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Air Force Ground Crewmen Lift Out The Unconscious Pilot Of A Republic P-47 After His Flak Riddled Plane Crashed On A New Airstrip Somewhere In France. 16 June 1944 P-47 367th FS 358th FG 9th AF

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Air Force Ground Crewmen Lift Out The Unconscious Pilot Of A Republic P-47 After His Flak Riddled Plane Crashed On A New Airstrip Somewhere In France. 16 June 1944 P-47 367th FS 358th FG 9th AF

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P-47 367th FS 358th FG 9th AF

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Air Force Ground Crewmen Lift Out The Unconscious Pilot Of A Republic P-47 After His Flak Riddled Plane Crashed On A New Airstrip Somewhere In France. 16 June 1944

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P-51D Mustang 352nd Fighter Group 487th Fighter Squadron sn 44-14955

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410th Bomb Group A-20

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416th Bombardment Group 1944

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416th Bombardment Group 1944

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416th Bombardment Group 1944

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B-26 of the 397th Bomb Group

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:12 pm 
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as for the invasion stripes, they were their for the cause...... i.d. friend or foe for the mission. as to the sharks teeth....... complete "esprit de corp" & great for morale!!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:16 pm 
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tom d. friedman wrote:
as for the invasion stripes, they were their for the cause...... i.d. friend or foe for the mission. as to the sharks teeth....... complete "esprit de corp" & great for morale!!


Correct you are Tom.

I wonder what this did for morale on the other side :wink:

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Awesome Mark!!

Thanks for another great post!

As far as shark mouths and invasion stripes. The key to everything is the right dosage. Too much of a good thing, you know.


We briefly considered this scheme for our Tiger.

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Mark Allen M wrote:
I think there rather pretty :wink: .... and don't miss my next thread solely dedicated to CY and PB :axe:


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P-51D of Maj Roy Webb 361st FG



Mark, this was not Webbs personal/assigned D model. Webbs D model 'Sweet Thing IV' was B7*W 44-13537. This one is commonly mistaken as Webbs due to a photo shoot where the cowl panel off of B7*W was removed while it was in MX and put on B7*M for the shoot.

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Invasion stripes over and under, D-Day and immediately afterwards, lower only stripes by order well past D-Day with top side stripes removed or painted over to obliterate them. look at the belly of Maj. Webbs 'D' and the top side of that A-20 on just how haphazardly the stripes were installed, on the evening of 6/5/44 using wall paper brushes by anyone caught with nothing to do that evening! Webbs wing stripes spread out like warm butter, a 'details' note to modellers as well as guys doing a Riddler Award stye laser perfect striping set up on their P-51, none were done with a carpenters square and a chalk snap line until after the fact-

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"...the stripes were installed, on the evening of 6/5/44..."

Actually stripes were applied over night June 3-4 since take-off was to be about 21:45 DBST (June 4) in order to start putting troops on the ground at appx 00:15 on June 5....Of course the invasion was postponed for 24 hours so the planes sat around striped for 24 hours.....amazing the bad guys didn't get wise to something during that time!


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In the middle of the pack of great photos is a flight of "P-51 D's of the 339th FG", isn't the background aircraft really not a "D" model but an earlier one with a "Malcolm Hood" ?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:16 am 
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Why so negative?

I've seen both on too many aircraft that shouldn't have them...L-3, RV-4s, Navions...all fine aircraft, but none should have them.

But it's not anything that keeps me up nights. :)

And yes, somebody will probably come up with a photo of a Korean war Navion with a shark's mouth. :)

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another great set Mark, love that P-38 with the shark mouths on the engines!

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Roger, that P-38 "white 33" is under restoration at Westpac!

That's a sharkmouth wearing machine that no one will be able to gripe about! :lol:

http://www.westpacrestorations.com/inde ... g-white-33

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Roger, that P-38 "white 33" is under restoration at Westpac!Andy

Andy I don't believe this is the same #33. I may be wrong but I believe the P-38 in the photo and the one being restored at Westpac are two different airplanes. I believe there's a thread or two here somewhere that discusses this.

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A 22 SOS "Zorro" pokes fun at the F-4 gang ...

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Mark Allen M wrote:
DH82EH wrote:
Roger, that P-38 "white 33" is under restoration at Westpac!Andy

Andy I don't believe this is the same #33. I may be wrong but I believe the P-38 in the photo and the one being restored at Westpac are two different airplanes. I believe there's a thread or two here somewhere that discusses this.


I think Mark is right on this, Japanese Sandman II is apparently in Jerry Yagen's hands somewhere in the southern hemisphere. At least that's the rumor.

I agree with JohnB, shark mouths don't really look good on everything, not a huge fan of them on B-17s and L-4s, but love them on B-24s, P-51s, and P-40s of course.

D-Day stripes? Love them! Never enough of them, especially some of the recent aircraft that had them applied properly with mops, and brushes.

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Chappie wrote:
I think Mark is right on this

Hey you mean I could be "right" about something for once? :supz:

And here's a couple more of those black and white stripe things.

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P-51 42-106707 Sleepy Time Gal in foreground (P51-B, 361st FG 376th FS E9-S)

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Lockheed P-38 Lightning Fighter of 8th AAF warms up prior to leaving for its mission over Germany

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Lockheed P-38 Lightnings fighters queue u pat daybreak, 6 June 44, as they get ready for a patrol over France

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P-47D 42-27249 was assigned to the 377th Ftr Sq, 362nd FG. It was lost 26 November 1944 near Schonberg, Belgium; pilot 1LT Fred C. Ford was KIA

... and another one of those dreaded combos types. :wink:

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Douglas A-20 'Butch' Of The 410Th Bomb Group, Parked At A 9Th Air Force Base In England. 22 June 1944

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