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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:02 pm 
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USAAF P-47N Thunderbolt aboard USS Casablanca CVE-55 in July 1945

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USAAF P-51D's

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USAAF P-51D's

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USAAF P-51D's and P-38's

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P-47s bound for Eniwetok the Marshall Islands on board USS Manilla Bay 13th June 44

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P-40's

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Captured Japanese aircraft on the USS Barnes

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View of the flight deck aboard the Royal Navy aircraft carrier HMS Reaper which left from Cherbourg, France, July 1945, for the United States. Many Messerschmitt Me 262's can be seen on deck with protective covering on the aircraft. [Also seen are He 219s, Do 335, Fw 190, Ta 152.]

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USS Copahee with lineup of Mitsubishi A6M5 model 52 fighters

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One-half left front close-up view from slightly below of Messerschmitt Me 262 during transient to the United States on board the Royal Navy aircraft carrier H.M.S. Raper. The aircraft carrier is in port at Cherbourg, France, July 1945.

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Captured Japanese aircraft on the USS Core

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:50 pm 
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The guys who flew of the escort carriers must have had nerves of steel. There's not a whole lot of real estate to operate a plane from.


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Great shots Mark, thanks for posting.

I found the transport shots most interesting, especially the USS Esperance CVE88. My spotter eye detects F-86, F-84, F-80, Army L-19's, Texans and Hellcats. A very interesting load! My guess bringing older planes back from overseas? from Japan/Korea?

I also appreciated the size of the Savage on the essex class. Must have been a nightmare for the yellow shirts spotting them on deck.

Anyone know why the Panther wings only folded partially up? They stop short of vertical, and seems like a waste of space. Perhaps so they could fold while in the hangar deck and not hit the overhead? Seems shortsighted to have them not go past the vertical like most (all?) other aircraft with wings that fold inwards.


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Great pictures!
I'm wondering about that picture of the USS Esperance, is that date accurate? I see at least 6 early F-84's, at least 4 F-80's and a couple of F-86's. To me it looks like earlier 50's maybe Korean war time period. Wouldn't the F-84's and F-80's have been out of service by '59?


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Very nice! Thanks for sharing.

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Thanks Mark, did the 79/80 WestPac on the old Coral Maru CV-43 :supz:


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Mark Allen M wrote:
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View showing the stern quarter of the ship as the carrier Enterprise (CV 6) steams in the Pacific during 1942 c 1942
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Seems like carriers are always photographed from above, and they look like floating off-ramps.

This angle of the Big E is superb. Very predatory.


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Notice the mess cook taking a breather 8)


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Malo83 wrote:
Notice the mess cook taking a breather 8)


I didn't notice that until you pointed it out. That takes a little bit of the menace out of the photo. Lol.


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Richard W. wrote:
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Notice the mess cook taking a breather 8)


I didn't notice that until you pointed it out. That takes a little bit of the menace out of the photo. Lol.


Got something going on in the Hanger Deck, Mass perhaps?
Also note the Degaussing gar along the hull.

Scrapping this Lady was a massive mistake, and now her newer namesake.


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Marauderman26 wrote:
Richard W. wrote:
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Notice the mess cook taking a breather 8)


I didn't notice that until you pointed it out. That takes a little bit of the menace out of the photo. Lol.


Got something going on in the Hanger Deck, Mass perhaps?
Also note the Degaussing gar along the hull.

Scrapping this Lady was a massive mistake, and now her newer namesake.


Looks like the flag is at half-staff? Maybe a memorial service is going on?

+1 on the scrapping of CV-6 and CVN-65. Dumb. Dumb Dumb.

IIRC, there was a plan to have CV-6 at the Washington Navy Yard. That literally would have changed the entire complexion of the Anacostia waterfront 40 years ahead of time...before Nationals Stadium was put in.


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USS RANGER Ferries 58th FG P-40 Warhawks Across Atlantic

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Servicing Army fighters aboard carrier -- The 50 caliber machine guns of an Arm F-40-F are being loaded on the flight deck of a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier. Other Army fighters are lined up, being readied for the signal to take off on a joint Army-Navy mission. March 9, 1943.

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USS Chenango (CVE 28), P40 aircraft on board, October 1942

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45th Fighter Squadron P-51's on board an aircraft carrier in transit from Hawaii to Orete Bay, Guam for eventual deployment to Iwo Jima

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Japanese Planes on Hangar Deck USS Card Ship 1945

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Mark Allen M wrote:
There certainly looks to be a ceremony going on there which I would assume was not all that uncommon given the year. (1942)

As for the Enterprise being scrapped, sad as it is, after the war I'm sure most Americans were not all that interested in saving anything war related. The World was quite fed up with war by that time so it's not surprising much of the war effort was scrapped. The attitude of attempting to save items of war really didn't start to heat up until much later as we see it today.

Shame there's not more left of her, I believe her bell and her nameplate at a little league ball park. Of course we have "enterprise rent-a-car" to memorialize her.


I agree with Mark Allen M, the majority of the population was ready to put the war behind them.
A fund raising effort chaired by Admiral "Bull" Halsey himself feel very short. The park mentioned: http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/phot ... 148456.jpg is something to see.
There are also chairs from one of the ready rooms on display at the Washington Navy Yard, The ships bell at the Acadamy: http://img.groundspeak.com/waymarking/d ... 778dff.jpg
the telegraph: http://navy.memorieshop.com/Enterprise/Telegraph.html and others.
The distictive trippod mast ( http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/020650.jpg ) was intended for the top of the Academy Stadium but had already been cut up when the request was made.

Still, I cannot help think about the sight it would have been everytime I cross the Eleventh Street Bridge.


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Mark Allen M wrote:
Since this site is mainly all things Warbird and not so much Boat, I'm posting only carriers which had airplanes aboard. For those who have a problem with the boats simply close your eyes and try to mentally block them out :wink:
A lot of very cool stuff here.
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Her deck packed with planes for transport to the Pacific Theater, the carrier Intrepid (CV 11) pictured underway off U.S. Naval Drydocks Hunters Point near San Francisco, California c 1944

... Would you like to see more? ...

As usual, another much appreciated effort, Mark! I love all of the non-Navy aircraft that these carriers seem to be carrying - especially the Northrop P-61 Black Widow night fighters in this shot! One of my favorite (non-Grumman) aircraft of all time. I've also always had a particular fascination for twin-boom aircraft such as the P-61, the P-38 Lightning, and the Cessna O-2 as well.

Also love the shots of some of the more rare, less-often seen Navy aircraft on these decks - such as the North American AJ Savage (I'll have to go back and check the horizontal stabs to see if they're -1's or -2's) and the Vought F7U Cutlasses.

In some of the other shots of carriers carrying Army or Air Force aircraft, it'd be interesting to try to identify some of those C-47, C-45, and O-1 aircraft and see if any of them ended up as civilian-owned warbirds. How cool would it be to own one and be able to claim it has carrier "experience"?

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