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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:26 pm 
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Any recent news on the Allison Buchon conversion?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:53 pm 
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Would really like to see a C.4k restored to original with Spanish markings.


Airworthy? One day. I mean heck... we'll soon have a -5 Corsair flying in Honduras markings. If your looking for just a static airframe there are already a few...

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There is also this example in storage at the Canada Aviation and Space Museum
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EDIT-Fixed link, thanks Shane!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:35 am 
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Thomas_Mac wrote:
Warbird Kid wrote:
shoki wrote:
Would really like to see a C.4k restored to original with Spanish markings.


Airworthy? One day. I mean heck... we'll soon have a -5 Corsair flying in Honduras markings. If your looking for just a static airframe there are already a few...

There is also this example in storage at the Canada Aviation and Space Museum
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Link didn't work...

Here's the Rockcliffe example:
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:23 am 
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This via Facebook, from John Muszala II:

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We are making great progress on the 109, the Allison fits very well and is very similar to the DB 605. We are able to put the stock 109 cowl around the Allison and give it the look that everyone wants see. The thrust line between the DB and the Merlin are drastically different and the Merlin can not be lowered that far down but the Allison can. The Allison fits in all dimensions and it fits in the same spot as the DB 605, and yes we can run the exhaust out the stock 109 spot as well as put the carb air scoop out the left side. We are replicating a BF 109G-10. It will have the taller vertical, Erla canopy, and cowling bulges. We have already started on all of that as well as addressing the very screwed up tail as a hole. Most of you know that Buchons where built with LH rotating engines in the begging and they never addressed the tail when the Merlin's where installed. We are addressing that issue as well as all the ether ones that have arose. We are restoring it to be authentic as far as paint colors and so on. The cockpit is very close to the original so the pilot still gets the look and feel when they are out chasing down Mustangs! The goal is a good safe flying airplane that when on the ramp at your local Airshow looks identical to a BF 109G-10.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:43 am 
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If I saw a purple Buchon coming at me in combat I would just laugh......


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:31 pm 
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It's actually Blue. Lighting can play havoc with photos.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:36 am 
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Interesting that they can get the Allison to sit lower than a Merlin. I thought physically they were about the same size. But I suppose if the Allison has a slightly narrower width that means it can sit lower in custom engine mounts to the same thrust line as the DB engines.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:52 am 
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I'm curious. What's the advantage to using an Allison instead of a Merlin?

That's easy, you can fly an Allison farther than you can ship a merlin. :supz:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:41 am 
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Nah, you've got that backwards....a Merlin in a box is FASTER than an Allison in a Mustang. (Per Ralph Payne and Dave Z)

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:23 pm 
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Wow. This sounds like an excellent project! pop1

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:27 pm 
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Nah, you've got that backwards....a Merlin in a box is FASTER than an Allison in a Mustang. (Per Ralph Payne and Dave Z)

True above 15,000 feet :)
RAAF test flew a MkV spit against a P40n (if my shot memory works) in mock combat and found neither had the advantage..Above 15,000 feet the Merlins Supercharger really kicked in and left the Allison for dust..
Thought they had dramas with the extended gearbox for the Allison in the Fw190D9?Sounds like a different project for the guys and definitely be following it :) Go hard or go home :supz:

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