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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:02 am 
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Don't forget that Singapore was also bombed by a raid lasting from approximately 04.00hrs to 05.00hrs on the 8th of December 1941 local time. As Singapore is 18 hours ahead of Hawaii, does the time difference mean that this was actually before Pearl Harbor was hit or is my maths wrong there? I get confused by time zones when it doesn't involve NZ.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:01 am 
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Dave Homewood wrote:
I get confused by time zones when it doesn't involve NZ.

Welome to: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

Dave Homewood wrote:
Don't forget that Singapore was also bombed by a raid lasting from approximately 04.00hrs to 05.00hrs on the 8th of December 1941 local time. As Singapore is 18 hours ahead of Hawaii, does the time difference mean that this was actually before Pearl Harbor was hit or is my maths wrong there?
I was interested, so I used the above to calculate it. Cheating the year, but the day/date works:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/f ... 1=236&ah=1

So 4am on the 8th December in Singapore is 10am on the 7th December in Hawaii. The attack at Pearl Harbor began at 7.48 am Hawaiian Time, so earlier than the Singapore attack.

I think I've got that right!

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OK, well if that is right then i was way off. I was taking the 18 hours away from the standard 24 and getting 6 hours left, so 6.00am. I think....

Either way, Singapore was bombed for the first time on the same morning as Hawaii, and it suffered repeated attacks over the next two months till it fell. Probably the biggest loss to the Allies in the Pacific.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:30 am 
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Mark,
Great images-thank you very much for posting from your personal collection. I am new here, having signed up to reply to this thread.

Quite interested in more detail on the 7th image in your sequence, the one with sandbag positions on Ford Island. Those SOCs at left near the seaplane ramp look freshly offloaded, perhaps within a few days after the attack. I wonder if they came off the ships of the TF12 group that returned to Pearl 6 days after the attack.

Is it possible that you have this image scanned at higher resolution, revealing the markings on the closest SOC?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts. Here is a link to my site page related to this period in the aftermath:

http://www.ussastoria.org/Lines_of_Advance.html

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