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 Post subject: Old Cars and Old Planes
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 11:56 am 
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 12:21 pm 
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Fairly rare bird in photo 6 - a De Havilland Hornet. Some other interesting shots, too. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 1:22 pm 
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#3 a WILLYS Americar coupe, anyone for a AA/GS coupe in the raw? # 5 is a PLYMOUTH '34?, #7 Ike and Harold Wilson in a Roller, #10 is a 37 FORD humpback (built in trunk) there's another 37 FORD sedan a couple pictures later, the T Bird is a '56 (spare mounted outside the trunk), can't tell you the exact year of the gray FORD in front of the CAL F-86 as I can't see the gas filler, it's on the left side of the car, but an exterior round cap was a '49 and one with a flush gas door was a '50, (the '51 had many styling changes on the basic Gregiore design), I think the sedan parked under cover in front of the S-42 in Hawai`i is a '29-30 Lincoln, the last guy is the king of cool, Steve McQueen while he was doing TV's 'Wanted Dead or Alive' tuning on his Jaguar XK-SS, a limited production streetable version of the racing Jag 'D type' I believe actor Tim Considine (My three sons) also had one.
The far right hand motorcycle in front of the Mosquito is a MATCHLESS, 750cc twin, look @ the front brake, about 7 inches in diameter and two maybe 1" wide semi circular brakes shoes operated by a pull cable like the brakes on a modern bicycle, cotton cord tires, 'let's go really fast!' The other two might be VINCENTS.
The U.S. Mail truck loading the Northwest airlines LOCKHEED @ St. Paul Minniesnowplace is a FORD 'AA'
At a guess, the EASTERN CONNIE might be the White House press plane as the Lincoln looks like Eisenhowers official car and the GREYHOUND 'Silver Sides' would be for the ink stained wretches to ride in.

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 1:26 pm 
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can't tell you the exact year of the gray FORD in front of the CAL F-86 as I can't see the gas filler, it's on the left side of the car, but an exterior round cap was a '49 and one with a flush gas door was a '50, (the '51 had many styling changes on the basic Gregiore design),



It's a 1950. 49's had F O R D on the hood instead of the emblem. 51's had 2 bullets in the grille instead of the single in 49 and 50.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 1:44 pm 
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I'll throw a few into the mix, if I may...

These first two are from my collection, the rest came from various web sources.


I dunno why, but this reminds me of fly-in breakfasts... and the pancake breakfast at Genny...

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How about one taken *from* a car?

I'd actually be very grateful if someone could identify the vehicle here.

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These next few came from this photo collection.

Planes, trains, and automobiles...

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Fill'er up!

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Bye dear... don't forget to bring home a quart of milk after work!

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I don't recall the source for these two...

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EDIT: One more... dunno where this came from, 'tis an auction image maybe.

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May have more... we'll see...


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In two images without a source, the plane in the hangar is a Northrup XP-56 and the design in the second image looks like one of the Northrup flying wing test aircraft, perhaps the N-1M or N-9M. Can't really see a lot of detail in the image. I'm sure someone can add to that.

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 2:59 pm 
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first series #2 1937 export Chevy (R/H drive)
series #2
the shot from inside the car is from a HUDSON TERRAPLANE, hood ornament is the tipoff
#3 40 FORD panel truck gimmiegimmiegimmie!!!
46 or 47 FORD P/U behind the G-21 (41 thru 47 were basically the same truck ,different grills)
SINCLAIR is a 41 FORD see the similarities to the one behind the GOOSE? The DC-3 FLAGSHIP ROCHESTER l/n 2208 a -227B with AA from 3/40 until 4/42 then XA-HOU (WFU)
41 FORD convertible (reviled by hot rodders until you couldn't find any more 39/40's, mostly the huge back light was aesthetics the issue)
41 PONTIAC TORPEDO 8 @ Muroc
40 DODGE convertable
wrecker could be a cut down Caddy, lots of them used as early wreckers, big engines, lots of grunt
AUSTIN van w/ VISCOUNT
46 OLDS. CADDY FLEETWOOD, & CHRYSLER some big shot show-n-tell involving B-50's
Amelia Earhart, CORD 812, the Lockheed
56 or 57 BORGWARD/DC-6 technically 'interesting' cars
56 BUICK (RoadMaster?)/Connie
the little roadster is a HONDA 600, 2 cyl bike engine, chain drive, and about a 14000 rpm redline!
Newest car in the T-28 shot is a 61 FORD GALAXIE hardtop sedan (square top so before mid year STARLINER fastback)
Just noticed, the T-28 on the left in the front row has been flipped, no engine, no canopy glass bubble, crunched wingtip and vertical fin.
newest cars in the B-29 parking lot are a 51 Lincoln, 51 FORD, and a bathtub NASH
48-53 GMC fuel truck in front of the P-51 (OMG!!! green wheel doors!!! :shock: ), 47 CHEV and GMC 'new look' trucks didn't have wind wings the COE's make really cool rodder Pickups dropped onto a newer dually chassis.

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 3:09 pm 
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In photo 14, Some lucky German has a nice Bugatti...but in the background is a nice Cord 812 convertible.
Oh, yeah..and a Bf-110 in the background.

Probably occcupied France.

Where did the photo come from? I'd like to send it to a Cord expert I know.

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Looking at the picture of the DH Mosquito with the three motorcycles, I believe the other two bikes are Ariels. It difficult to tell other than the tank badges. The forks are Bramptons,the engines are by J.A.P., HRD did a bike using these forks and engine (prior to being acquired by Vincent). British bikes of the 20's and 30's used lots of "bought in" components from specialist makers. This is a great thread, BTW.


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Steve McQueen was well known in the Vincent community, as is Jay Leno.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 3:29 pm 
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The Inspector wrote:
the shot from inside the car is from a HUDSON TERRAPLANE, hood ornament is the tipoff

Vielen dank!

I knew the hood ornament would probably be the key there, but I don't know cars... and although I could probably have figured it out after a while on the web, I already waste too much time surfing for stuff I do know about. Probably would'a lost a whole weekend on that one. Thanks again, guy!

Well, I'm not trying to turn this into a pi**in' contest, but I got hooked on lookin' for pics of planes with cars... I have no sources for most of these.

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This one looks like a modern photo that was given a crappy vintage treatment, but what the hey... the wings and wheels are both old, regardless...

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How'sabout some planes that are cars... or cars that are... you get the idea...

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Or, how about a car made outta... again, you kinda get the gist...

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And finally, how about trying to make an old car look like an old airplane?

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 3:39 pm 
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In set 3, #8 the car is a Cord L-29.

E.L. Cord was also owner of AVCO, Stinson, Vultee, Lycoming and American Airlines.

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 3:51 pm 
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The touring car in front of the HP 42 'HENGIST' is a 34 FORD, probably in Egypt.
Keystone PATRICIAN K-78 was an attempt to get into the airliner business, three built by KEYSTONE, this one X-7962 c/n 186 was the prototype used by COLONIAL on charters Boston/New York. One of the others, NC 98N sold to Wright Aeronautical as an engine test bed/executive transport with plush interior, the Depression killed the PATRICIAN.
The OPEL KAPITAN is either a 54 or 55, Clipper N 1038V s/n 15938 to Pan AM 9/49
The 'T' on skis was a popular winterizing kit for really cold, snowy places (like my Ex wifes heart), two skis replaced the front wheels and a 'tag' axle bolted on to run the tracks.
The saloon in front of the AVRO 504 might be an AUSTIN 7 'chummy'
The car in front of the hanger with the flapper might be a VELLIE which became MONOCOUPE when the company was split up in late 1929, VELLIE built big cars in the CHRYSLER build level.
I think TAYLOR N 101D might still be flying painted OHMYGAWD yellow and Willow green.
The car being loaded into the BRISTOL 178 is a custom bodied Rolls Royce

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 4:15 pm 
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Tailfins meet tailfins:

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(Still grab from the 1957 film Affair In Havana. Wonder if that snubnose Cubana Connie is the same one as in the previous photo with the '56 Buick Special convertible - and who knows if either one might be the one that went to Capitol, then to the restaurant in PA, and is now at Dover dressed up as a C-121?)

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