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Final Cut-The Post War B-17 Flying Fortress and Survivors - 5th Edition


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:26 pm 
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B-17 salvaged from New Guinea swamp unveiled in Long Beach
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Posted: 06/11/2010 01:08:31 PM PDT


More than 68 years after a B-17E Flying Fortress crash-landed in a New Guinea swamp, the salvaged aircraft, nicknamed Swamp Ghost, was unveiled today in Long Beach.

A formation flyover by a vintage P-51 Mustang and P-40 Warhawk above the Long Beach Harbor began the ceremony to unveil the recovered bomber.

The event in the parking lot of The Reef restaurant, where the plane's remarkably intact front fuselage was displayed, also included a flag presentation by the U.S. Air Force Honor Guard and remarks from recovery team members.

Unfortunately, the aircraft's last four surviving crew members died shortly before Swamp Ghost returned to the United States. The plane's return was one of bombardier Richard Oliver's last wishes. His death last year denied him the privilege of seeing his warbird come home, but his widow, Linda, attended the ceremony, along with a handful of other air crew family members.

First spotted by an Australian Air Force crew in 1972, the effort to salvage and export the plane was initiated in the mid-1980s by the late Specialty Restaurants Corp. founder, World War II veteran and antique aircraft collector David Tallichet.

"My father was a young B-17 pilot flying out of England with the Bloody 100th Bomb Group during World War II," said John Tallichet, president and CEO of Specialty Restaurants.

"He never lost his passion for aviation or love of his combat aircraft, the venerable Flying Fortress," he said. "Sadly, my father could not be here to witness his dream fulfilled. However, my family is honored to continue his vision of preserving this invaluable relic of aviation history for the benefit of future generations."
In 1996, aircraft salvage efforts were continued by Aero Archaeology founder and aircraft recovery enthusiast Alfred Hagen, who has located seven missing World War II aircraft and returned the remains of more than a dozen missing-in-action airmen to the United States for burial with full military honors.

"Much of my work has been to honor those whom we have come to know as the Greatest Generation, and we look back on their accomplishments for inspiration," Hagen said.

Swamp Ghost will be restored, possibly to flying condition, for permanent display at an aviation history museum.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_15278380


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:10 pm 
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Hey, I'm in this photo and didn't sign a model release!

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Visitors mill around the Swamp Ghost, a B-17E bomber which crashed in a Papua New Guinea swamp during World War II, and was unveiled in Long Beach, Calif., on Friday, June 11, 2010, after being returned to the U.S and restored. (AP Photo/Adam Lau) (Adam Lau, AP / June 11, 2010)


P.S. Didn't realize it was already restored!

Here's my best shot anyhow- say howdy to "Triangle P":

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Oh boy, thats not what they wanted to see...you're asking for it.

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Good for you guys! That must have been something to see in person.OK now back to work getting Black Cat Pass B-17 on the mountain. :lol:

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It looks good considering where its been sitting all these years.

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We just had the Corsairs over Connecticut 2010 event with some wonderful shots of me in period corsair gear in corsair cockpits. Something that hasin't happened since the 40's.


It has happened a lot. I've seen it at Oshkosh more than once. It was tried at the Arlington airshow in Washington several years ago. If you dig through the CAF Corsair website there used to be pictures of Chris Avery flying the Corsair wearing that stuff.

I'm glad to see Swamp Ghost finally in the US. I hope she gets under restoration and in the air soon but even if she doesn't, I'm glad she'll be on display.

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whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:
We just had the Corsairs over Connecticut 2010 event with some wonderful shots of me in period corsair gear in corsair cockpits. Something that hasin't happened since the 40's.


It has happened a lot. I've seen it at Oshkosh more than once. It was tried at the Arlington airshow in Washington several years ago. If you dig through the CAF Corsair website there used to be pictures of Chris Avery flying the Corsair wearing that stuff.

I'm glad to see Swamp Ghost finally in the US. I hope she gets under restoration and in the air soon but even if she doesn't, I'm glad she'll be on display.


NO it has not happened in Connecticut at the original Chance-vought plant in Statford, CT. I should have specified. The Corsair's true home, CT not Oshkosh or Arlington.

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Any word at the press conference of what is next for Swamp Ghost? (Headed to Pima I presume). Preservation, static, flying?

I am glad a few Wixer's got to go see it. Credit goes to Scott at Aerovintage for posting it on his site first. :wink:

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Ok..

So who owns her? What are the plans? Flying? Static?

Is she privately owned?

NMUSAF?

Somebody spent a lot of capital getting her here. I may have missed these details somewhere....


Looks pretty good so far. What kind of shape are the wings in? Corrosion?

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Neither ownership nor future display plans were made clear at the presentation. It was stated that the plan was to restore to flight, but there was no timeline given. I don't recall the word "Pima" being uttered by any of the speakers.

Really I think this was about publicising the aircraft's recovery, return to the US and to honor Dave Tallichet and the original crew members.


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Neither ownership nor future display plans were made clear at the presentation. It was stated that the plan was to restore to flight, but there was no timeline given. I don't recall the word "Pima" being uttered by any of the speakers.

Really I think this was about publicising the aircraft's recovery, return to the US and to honor Dave Tallichet and the original crew members.

All the way around, a great job!

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What a relief - I can finally exhale (I should have listened to everybody who said "Don't hold your breath until it gets back to the U.S.")!

It would be great if they could make a few museum stops to show it off on the way to Pima - like at Chino and Palm Springs... could help bring in some funds for the restoration :D

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Hmm would be neat to see it flying again but you will lose alot of originality and history if done so.. Would be better properly restored conserved for all to appreciate.

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Due to the amount of corrosion(steel bolts thru aluminum tubing) in the wings I would say she will be a static but a darn good one.Trade it to the AF for a gate guard B-17 and get on with restoring that one to fly.Lots cheaper.JMO

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