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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:25 am 
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Anyone have an update as to how the restoration is coming along on Don Brooks' B-17 that he fished out of a lake in Canada?

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Pat, thats a good question. Was that covered here on WIX before? I seem to recall a discussion about the disposition of this B-17, known as the Dyke Lake B-17. Don Brooks has a website devoted to the recovery found here http://nwrain.net/~newtsuit/b17labrador/
Its lists it as B-17G 44-85740, but Aero Vintage Books website lists it as B-17G, 44-83790, described here on the September 2004 article on his B-17 News Archive.http://aerovintage.com/b17news4.htm
Anybody know more about this B-17? What unrestored airframes in private hands (non-govt) are out there? What, exactly is out there in B-17s now, major parts or otherwise?

Is this the Dyke Lakes B-17, listed on Warbid Relics website as being for sale for $650,000? I think this is an archived link, as its not listed on the website anymore (at least I can't find it).
http://www.warbirdrelics.com/b-17.htm

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:42 pm 
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Not seeing much of anything recent on her. Anyone have ANY updates? Brooks Aviation, the folks who brought Liberty Belle back to life.

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Tom Reilly doesnt have a website for his company does he?

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Scott at Aero Vintage Books kindly sent me a PM about this B-17 which I'll include here:

Christopher,

Most of what I have I try and keep current on the web site, which I may need to double check to make sure it is current. The Dyke airplane was never and is not a civil airplane, thus not on that listing.

Its status as far as I know: storage at Douglas, GA, pending a restoration project starting after Don's P-40 project is really done. It was cleaned and inventoried after arrival but then placed into storage. The correct serial number is 44-83790 and there is talk of restoring it to a B-17F configuration. I suspect it will be a very long time coming since the Liberty Belle is flying and takes much work to keep it that way. There is an incredible amount of work and money required to get the Dyke Lake airplane back in the air.

The story of the recovery is covered in the 3rd edition of Final Cut, for what it's worth.

Hope this helps a bit.


So that seems to be this B-17s story until it gets some attention. Thanks again to Scott of Aero Vintage Books for his up-to-date knowledge and sharing it with us. I think its time to get that book...
Now, I guess this diverges somewhat from Pat Carry's original post (but along a similar vein of thought) but does anyone know the identity of the B-17 listed for sale on Warbird Relics? Is it a single airframe or a collection of different airframes being sold together? Want me to start another post subject Pat?
http://www.warbirdrelics.com/b-17.htm

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It seems like someone has told me that the warbird relic plane is not a single airframe. The wings or the back 1/3 are from a different plane?

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After listening to the interview Matt Jolley conducted with Tom Reilly, Tom mentioned that they never found the tail to this B-17. So its still up there somewhere.

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Yes, The writing about the retrieval of the plane is oustanding: After putting enough airbag on the plane and brough her to the surface they towed her during miles and miles night and day accross the lake in difficult weather.
That would be THE job for a team of warbirds fans.

According the pictures available, the nose was missing, too
And, on the website of the Urbana's B-17, there is some pictures about the resoration of this B-17 too, showing some work done by Tom Reilly, including the removale of the skin of the radio room. These skins were used as template to drill no skin for the Urbana's group, who need a complete scratch build radio room.

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Warbird Kid wrote:
After listening to the interview Matt Jolley conducted with Tom Reilly, Tom mentioned that they never found the tail to this B-17. So its still up there somewhere.

I wonder if there has been any active searches for the tail recently.

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TriangleP wrote:

Is this the Dyke Lakes B-17, listed on Warbid Relics website as being for sale for $650,000? I think this is an archived link, as its not listed on the website anymore (at least I can't find it).
http://www.warbirdrelics.com/b-17.htm


The referenced link is to a very old (five years or more) listing of a parts project that consisted of the remaining parts of SB-17G 44-83722, VB-17G 44-83316, and JTB-17G 44-85813, plus some other parts from here and there gathered by Tom Reilly and offered for sale. This package was eventually picked up by the Urbana team and forms the basis for the restoration of 44-85813 to airworthy status. Needless to say, it is no longer available for sale.

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Ok, file this one under better late than never.

The Dyke Lake project is in storage pending us freeing up from current projects. It has bumped up one on the priority list, now that the P-40 is completed. I'm currently going over the DC-3 (nee C-47), getting it ready to paint before it goes out to a few airshows this spring & summer. Once it's flying, we still have the SNJ to reassemble, and the Stearman to recover. After all of that, we'll start working on the B-17 fuselage. I'm guessing a post Oshkosh start for the B-17. In the meantime, we have been collecting some rear fuselage and empenage parts. It was decided early on, based on the condition of the fuselage, that it didn't make sense to go back after the tail.


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Here's what it looked like about 5 years ago....the same weekend I met Chuck there!

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Chuck Giese wrote:
Ok, file this one under better late than never.

The Dyke Lake project is in storage pending us freeing up from current projects. It has bumped up one on the priority list, now that the P-40 is completed. I'm currently going over the DC-3 (nee C-47), getting it ready to paint before it goes out to a few airshows this spring & summer. Once it's flying, we still have the SNJ to reassemble, and the Stearman to recover. After all of that, we'll start working on the B-17 fuselage. I'm guessing a post Oshkosh start for the B-17. In the meantime, we have been collecting some rear fuselage and empenage parts. It was decided early on, based on the condition of the fuselage, that it didn't make sense to go back after the tail.



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Rod Schneider wrote:

Boredom is never a problem, is it Chuck?


Nope. I keep the picture of me sleeping in front of the DC-3 as a reminder of what used to be, and may be again once we get back to going to air shows. That's where I *used* to catch up on sleep :)

B.T.W. Rod, how many projects do you have going now? If it makes it easier, we can limit the list to aircraft :wink:


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Here are some photos of parts of Don's B-17 taken at Douglas, GA, in October of 2008. The fuselage section shown in Randy's photos was not on the ramp, and I believe it was in the hangar.

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