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John Travolta :D


hahaha..he should sell his 707 and fly around in a EC-121! :wink: :lol:

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Gary, I never worked on big pistons but what exactly locks up inside? Could it be just an accesory locked up keeping the engine from rotating?


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I'm quite certain that Mr. Travolta's connie is the one in KLM markings in the Netherlands.


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Gary, I never worked on big pistons but what exactly locks up inside? Could it be just an accesory locked up keeping the engine from rotating?


Well, during my phone conversation with the guy in charge of this bird, he explained to me that the "kids at the A&P school used to run it up and ran two of the engines through a hydraulic lock." I do know that at least one engine is seized up. My guess is that they broke a rod and it's wedged itself firmly in place. Just a guess though.

I've received several promising messages from folks who wish to help save this bird. There is certainly nothing in stone yet, and everything could just fall apart, but we're at least trying to make something good happen here. Stay tuned.

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To provide some perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWPyH97eOoI


Definately a warbird worthy of saving.

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To piggie-back onto what Gary was saying, here is an eyewitness account:

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I attended the Helena Vo-Tech A&P school from Sept. 1984 until Feb. 1986, and was privileged to get to train on the Warning Star which still resides there. When I was in high school, in the early eighties, one day my dad came home from work, and being an airplane nut himself, said in disbelief, "I just saw a Super Connie land out at the airport." Never would I have guessed, just a few short years later, I would be turning wrenches on it. One project in particular I recall, there was one cowl flap that the motor had not worked in awhile on, so myself and a partner went to work with schematics and an ohm meter, got it troubleshot, and when it was fixed, we were "paid" for our work by the instructor, who allowed us to get into the plane and fire all four engines up at once. Out of sync, it was louder and more beautiful than 10,000 Harleys at Sturgis running at once. Now, unfortunately, the plane has an engine with hydraulic lock on one engine, which caused severe internal damage. Needless to say, all these years later, the plane hasn't run in along time.

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This plane is a beauty. I hope it is saved...

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I'd risk it and fly it I'd say. Can you fly a Ec-121 on three engines? :shock: :?:

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I'd risk it and fly it I'd say. Can you fly a Ec-121 on three engines? :shock: :?:

Yip. So who's gonna convince the FAA :P I volunteer as flightcrew guinea pig :D

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Yes, almost as cool as Greenameyers 29 expedition, though lots closer.
So what is the scrap price now? I wouldn't think they are giving it away.

Is it easy to check for critical airframe corrosion? And how difficult is the fix? Engines not run in a long time? So what the heck do they do at that school play cards? Hydraulic lock? Instructor? I guess a typical AP school huh?

Yeah this would be a fun deal to help out on. Those cylinders are probably pretty rusty, or did they have enough sense to oil em?


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I'd risk it and fly it I'd say. Can you fly a Ec-121 on three engines? :shock: :?:


Seemed within the theme of things :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGZ83z38tDI&NR=1

Definately would make headlines and would be on par with FiFi and Keebird.


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So how much are they asking for it? And how much time before it needs to be outa there? Can it be moved some place else on the field to work on it?


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I want to be a crew member to. With 3 engines running or not! :D :shock:

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The A&P school I went to had some old Military Aircraft that still ran. The problem is that the Government still owned them and the School could not Fly or sell them, If they didn't want them they had to give them back or to another facility, or scrap them!

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