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I will give a note to Geneseo. Maybe they can do something about it.

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Okay y'all, I did receive a very nice e-mail back from them, but it isn't looking too promising. :cry: The airplane has at least one engine that won't turn, and frankly, I'd be highly suspect of the others. Those ol' "dirty-three-filthys" just don't like to sit like that. So, my initial thought of ferrying the airplane out of there is looking to be more like wishful thinking than something that can actually take place. And I haven't even looked at it for corrosion issues yet. Trucking the airplane out will likely be the only "real" option, but holy-moly, that's gonna be a huge task. Now don't get me wrong....I ain't skeered, but I also know my limits. Helping save a PBY Catalina is one thing, but a Connie is obviously a much bigger bite to take.

I've been asked, via a Private Message, if the CAF can "just come save the airplane," but unfortunately, that's pretty unlikely as well. I will be in discussion about this bird this weekend, but the CAF just doesn't have the funding to save it. However, that's not to say that someone out there won't help us monetarily and with physical labor, but it's an awful lot to ask from anyone, you know?

Dang, this is so frustrating. I wish I were independantly wealthy. Working hard can only get you so far in life. :?

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Is this aircraft something that the CAF itself would be interested in saving?


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Is this aircraft something that the CAF itself would be interested in saving?


Interested? Absolutely!!! Able to? Hard to say. :?

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While on the subject of Constellations, the Salina airplane would be a very nice "save" if possible. We happened to be documenting the remaining WWII buildings back around 1990 or so when we heard a 3350 fire up. I talked to one of the fellows working on it for a little bit and he told me of the plan to fly it to Texas.

I don't know who owns it today or what the plan is, but it was still parked on the north ramp three weeks ago and looks pretty good.

http://www.conniesurvivors.com/N1206.htm


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Okay y'all, I did receive a very nice e-mail back from them, but it isn't looking too promising. :cry: The airplane has at least one engine that won't turn, and frankly, I'd be highly suspect of the others. Those ol' "dirty-three-filthys" just don't like to sit like that. So, my initial thought of ferrying the airplane out of there is looking to be more like wishful thinking than something that can actually take place. And I haven't even looked at it for corrosion issues yet. Trucking the airplane out will likely be the only "real" option, but holy-moly, that's gonna be a huge task. Now don't get me wrong....I ain't skeered, but I also know my limits. Helping save a PBY Catalina is one thing, but a Connie is obviously a much bigger bite to take.

I've been asked, via a Private Message, if the CAF can "just come save the airplane," but unfortunately, that's pretty unlikely as well. I will be in discussion about this bird this weekend, but the CAF just doesn't have the funding to save it. However, that's not to say that someone out there won't help us monetarily and with physical labor, but it's an awful lot to ask from anyone, you know?

Dang, this is so frustrating. I wish I were independantly wealthy. Working hard can only get you so far in life. :?

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Gary,

An idea popped into my crazy head. :rolleyes: What if the Yanks can finally get permission to ferry their EC-121 to Chino from Camarillo. Then, (following this event) in a major cooperative effort, loan the QEC's out to the CAF, or whomever, to allow for the quick ferry of the Helena bird to a safe location. This is, as you alluded to, dependent on the remaining systems being airworthy or easily made to be. Just a thought


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I like it! Let's keep in communication about it. I'm going to schedule a flight to go see the airplane soon. Stay tuned.

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Gary, if you end up working some sort fo a deal to ferry the aircraft I'm in for a weeks worth of food cooking, coffee running, wrench turning, forklift driving, parts running, parts washing, camping under the wing. Let me know.


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Roger that, Ryan, but its waaaaaaay too early to make that kind of scheduling yet. I don't know how I'm gonna make this work, but I feel its important to at least try as hard as I can anyway.

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I could pony up some money for you Gary! :D Anyone esle?

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Just like with the Catalina deal, I very much appreciate the offers of help! However, I need just a little time before I have a good plan. I promise y'all that I'll keep you posted should there be further developments.

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You can do it Gary! :D

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What about the SAC Connie's engines? Could they be loaned out for the ferry project? Alternately, is there anything at Pima that has usable 3350 QECs?

Good luck, I hope you guys can save it, I have always hoped that this plane would eventually wind up in a good home.

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It sure would be alot of fun.. It would go easier with a connie lead mechanic with experience on type to help out.. Could you get a stay of execution to get a little time to work things out?


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