Garbs wrote:
Not sure if anyone is interested in the ramp queens.
It's all good! Keep 'em coming.
bdk wrote:
DaveM2 published a photo of mine in Classic Wings showing the last HA-1112 at Victory Air Museum with the roundels plainly visible on one wing (the wings were probably all mixed up when they were reassembled). Either the German markings weathered off to display the English ones underneath, or the wing left the filming still in English markings. If it was in fact temporary paint, I wish my house was painted in that stuff because it was probably 10 years old when I photographed it.
Thanks bdk. As I said above I don't buy the washable paint remaining (under Luftwaffe?) colours theory. It seems awful complicated, or very tough 'temporary' paint - which bdk's highlighted. As I said above,
again...
JDK wrote:
Re-'RAF' Buchons: Basically the same as I said on the second page of the thread in two posts, although I'm not sure either way about the temporary paint wear issue. I didn't believe that any Buchons left the filming in RAF colours for 'ours' and 'theirs' political reasons; I'd assumed therefore that the RAF colours were washable and removed; the alternative being another layer of Luftwaffe paint was applied over them, which was to later wear off, which seems unlikely to me. My assumption that none were left in RAF colours may be wrong.
The other alternative explanation might be filming for
From He11 to Victory (Originally
Contro 4 bandiere - 1979) I mentioned before - it's a terrible mongrel film, with bits cut from everywhere. Gary Brown and I watched it many years ago together, and we agreed that the Buchon in RAF colours, seen once, briefly, wasn't an out-take from the
Battle of Britain film - again we might be wrong. Where it's from remains a mystery - this IMDB link gives a few clues. (
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079019/#comment ) Could one of Earl's Buchon's have been used in another film between the
Battle of Britain and arriving at the museum?
The photo of the 'P-51' Buchon is the one I referred to there owned by my colleague Gary Brown - I think it was originally an Aviation Photo News shot, and yes the reason they were created was the ever-present P-51s weren't available in Europe then.
Great thread!
I've
never seen another photo of a Buchon in RAF colours off the Spitfire Productions bases; except that this site, as bdk's shown, here, much later. I've also never seen another shot of the
From He11 to Victory Buchon - if there was a Buchon in RAF colours for another film pirated by the
FHTV makers. I don't really have a credible theory, whatever version one prefers there's a fair amount of forcing the facts to fit...