Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:10 pm
Nathan wrote:So sad...may I suggest moving the museum to someplace where flooding will never be a problem?
Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:44 pm
Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:06 pm
warbird1 wrote:3) Surely, all of the airplanes and museum exposed to salt water will be considered a total loss. This is not to say that the warbirds will be disposed of, but will probably necessitate total rebuilds.
4) Will this result in the museum moving away from the hurricane zone?
Why not move it to some place like San Antonio? With S.A.'s huge tourist industry, many people, military connections and retirees, I would think it would be in a better spot to promote the museum and give it lots of visibility and business. I still think the greatest mistake the CAF made was NOT moving to San Antonio. Sure, they got a lot of short term financial advantages when they moved to Midland, but you can't tell me that long term the CAF is in an advantage for headquartering in Midland. Case in point - look where the B-29 and B-24 have moved to? If nothing else, look how hard it is for volunteers to get to Midland for work? I would venture to say that with San Antonio's large population base, there would be many, many more active volunteers. It's one thing when you can drive to an Air Museum to volunteer, versus, taking several flights and having to go through DFW, Love Field, etc. to get there. It CAN make a big difference.
Does anyone think that LSFM will survive this and rebuild in Galveston?
Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:39 pm
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:06 pm
Flying Pencil wrote:This is SHORT term exposure to salt water. As the recoveries of a Ju-88 and FW-190 from the sea 60 years after they sank shows that aluminum will withstand salt for a LONG time (they will not fly, but are fine display models).
Of course certain items like radios and instruments are a loss.
Magnesium will need to be inspected for corrosion.
The engines could be salvageable, again depending if corrosion was found on critical parts.
Flying Pencil wrote:They do not need to move to San Antonio, and it may not be an ideal place. Dallas could be better because it already has the CFM and a CAF branch.
Houston may still be a GREAT place to host the museum. The CAF West Houston (IWS) branch suffered very little damage, being some 60~70 miles from coast.
Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:24 pm
RyanShort1 wrote:Much as I'd like to see it close to where I live, I doubt SA is the answer. My city's failed several times on this count. From what I've heard I think that eventually the Lewis collection will be on display - but a think that a major hangup is where on earth to put it. There's room for more hangars at Stinson - but things move REALLY slowly as far as the airport is concerned - just ask me about the runway extension that's been in the works for years... (Don't, please!).
RyanShort1 wrote:Also the fact is that Galveston and LSFM had an apparently good base of volunteers and members in the area - and unless they relocate, any move would be difficult. What are you going to do, get a whole new volunteer, pilot, and mechanic base? Houston and Galveston have had and probably will have $$ and people who are willing to support the warbirds, so that's probably where it'll have to stay.
I reckon after this, they will be working on contingency plans for any future weather events.
Ryan
Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:48 pm
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:53 pm
warbirdcrew wrote:
Is that the Sino-Swearingen prototype in the background? Would be a shame for that project if it was a write-off.
Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:57 pm
Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:00 pm
Lynn Allen wrote:warbirdcrew wrote:
Is that the Sino-Swearingen prototype in the background? Would be a shame for that project if it was a write-off.
Looks like a Falcon 10
Lynn
Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:06 pm
RyanShort1 wrote:You know, I know this is a current topic, and a hot one at that, and I'm all for saving warbirds and the artifacts, but honestly, don't you guys think we're jumping the gun a bit on this? ...
Ryan
Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:24 pm
warbird1 wrote:Flying Pencil wrote:This is SHORT term exposure to salt water. As the recoveries of a Ju-88 and FW-190 from the sea 60 years after they sank shows that aluminum will withstand salt for a LONG time (they will not fly, but are fine display models).
Of course certain items like radios and instruments are a loss.
Magnesium will need to be inspected for corrosion.
The engines could be salvageable, again depending if corrosion was found on critical parts.
As I understand it, even short term exposure to salt water is VERY detrimental to aircraft metal surfaces.