Warbird Sabreliners

dj51d · **Posted:** Sat May 15, 2004 1:09 am

I just got done watching Stripes on DVD, and at the end of the movie they return to the US on a T-39 Sabreliner. This got me thinking about warbird Sabreliners. Looking at the USCAR I ran across a most interesting entry, T-39A N1064/61-0649 registered to "United State Air Force". Any idea what a USAF aircraft is doing on the civil register?

Back to the original subject, are there any T-39's flying as warbirds? There seem to be a number on display around the country, but I haven't run across any flyers. I know there are quite a few civilian Sabreliners flying, but those aren't really T-39's

Scott Rose · **Posted:** Sat May 15, 2004 1:40 am

I know Michael Dorn (aka Worf of Star Trek Fame) has an ex-military one. Anybody know the N-Number?

mrhenniger · **Posted:** Sat May 15, 2004 8:01 am

dj51d wrote:

Any idea what a USAF aircraft is doing on the civil register?

The USN once operated all of their T-39Ns with C/Rs. They don't anymore.

Mike

AIRIC · **Posted:** Sat May 15, 2004 12:54 pm

I photographed this Sabreliner at the Hamilton International Airshow during the late 90s. The registration is N311NT.

This is the database for N311NT

http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm

Eric

Tulio1 · **Posted:** Sat May 15, 2004 2:30 pm

There were several Sabreliners, some still in US military markings, at the Laredo International Airport in Laredo, Texas.

They were being converted into cargo / parcel carriers for a Mexican courier company.

Last year, many of them were destroyed by a tornado that hit the airport.

Close to where I am right now, there is a Sabreliner at the Parks Aviation College, in Cahokia, IL.

Saludos!

Tulio

dj51d · **Posted:** Sat May 15, 2004 5:06 pm

I hadn't realized Michael Dorn's Sabreliner was ex-military, although that would explain why it's registered experimental. Dorn's Sabreliner is N881DM/282-137, it's listed as a -40.

Scott Rose · **Posted:** Sat May 15, 2004 8:09 pm

dj51d wrote:

I hadn't realized Michael Dorn's Sabreliner was ex-military, although that would explain why it's registered experimental. Dorn's Sabreliner is N881DM/282-137, it's listed as a -40.

I saw an interview with him on Discovery Wings and he was talking about refitting ex-military aircraft for the business jet market and used his own as an example. Thanks for the info.

Scott

O.P. · **Posted:** Sun May 16, 2004 12:32 pm

I saw him on the discovery wings channel a couple of times also. I think he owns, or did own an F-86 also.

dj51d · **Posted:** Mon May 17, 2004 11:39 am

He used to own an F-86/CL-13 RCAF23671, now N186FS with Ed Shipley. This is the F-86 that was damaged in an incident involving pyrotechnics at an airshow in Florida last winter. Any news on the current status of this F-86? Last I heard there was some concearn the fuselage may have been tweaked in the blast.

At one time Michael Dorn also owned a T-33, though I'm not sure which one.

Chad Veich · **Posted:** Mon May 17, 2004 12:33 pm

I have seen a Sabreliner operate out of Scottsdale airport in Scottsdale, AZ which is finished in USAF colors. I have no idea if it is an actual ex-military bird or just painted as one but I would hazard to guess the former.

Scott Rose · **Posted:** Mon May 17, 2004 3:00 pm

dj51d wrote:

This is the F-86 that was damaged in an incident involving pyrotechnics at an airshow in Florida last winter. Any news on the current status of this F-86? Last I heard there was some concearn the fuselage may have been tweaked in the blast.

I don't know this incident, whats the story?

dj51d · **Posted:** Mon May 17, 2004 3:32 pm

Apparently, a pyrotechnic device was detonated exactly as the Sabre passed over, blowing off part of the nose gear doors.

Airshow friendly fire

Scott Rose · **Posted:** Mon May 17, 2004 6:52 pm

Wow, I'd hate to be the pyro guy....

Chad Veich · **Posted:** Mon May 17, 2004 7:04 pm

I read an article somewhere on the net that said there was concern the Sabre was a write off due to the tweaking of the fuselage!

sammy · **Posted:** Mon May 17, 2004 7:19 pm

I understand that the F-86 was totaled out by the insurance company. Apparently the entire airframe had been overstressed as a result of the explosion.

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