Warbird Information Exchange

I bought the video a couple of years ago from PBS and it has held up.
I may have to upgrade to the DVD at some point.
Here is a partial transcript of the program:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2303b29.html

Hi,

I have had an interest in the "Disney Bombers" since around 1980-1 when I worked as a guard for the production company that did "the Right Stuff".

Our portion was filmed at Hamilton Army Air Field, Novato California.

In the hanger were not one, but; four B-29 forward fusalage sections. I was told these were the Disney birds.

In fact I have seen pics of from an interview with the director of "the Right Stuff" where you can make out the three fusalages that were on the east wall of that hanger. The main fusalage was on the western wall facing south.

I know for years it has been stated, variously, that they were dumped at sea and made into an artificial reef; turned back over to the Navy; given to Pima, ect.

Most accounts that mention any of them surviving say that only two survived. I think they may actually mean two complete aircraft; and two partial aircraft.

Anyway my two cents.

Joe

Thanks for all of the inputs to "the list". And for what it's worth, the PBS documentary B-29: Frozen In Time is well worth the money. I've had the VHS version for years and I just ordered it on DVD through Amazon...

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Scott,
To concur with what others have said, great list!
A few comments from me:

I have also seen 44-62112 quoted as being at Borrego Springs. Can anyone confirm if parts of this are there?

The location of 45-21739 in Korea is Sacheon. There is a photo on the museum's website at:
http://aerospacemuseum.co.kr/

On the "copies" side:
Tu-4 2805103 is at the Russian Air Force Museum at Monino, as 01 red.

There are indeed two at the Chinese museum:
2806501 (note correction to c/n) is an AEW version, coded 4114.
225008 is a drone launcher version, coded 4134.

Regards,
Andy Marden

USA Military Out of Service
World Military Out of Service

I can't say that I know for sure which airframes are which (although the Fertile Myrtile remains are definitely part of this pile), but here's a sample of what's at Borrego Springs........




















Gary

Thanks Gary, now I know what to put on my christmas list...

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The last photo in Gary's post above is the Disney nose section that came from Pima.

The remaining Disney airframes (fuselages only) at Pima were turned back into the base (Davis Monthan) and were disposed of through Surplus Properties. They had been stripped out and filled with expanding foam so they would float. There were 55 gallon drums of the foam placed in the fuselages and the catalyst was put in the through the bung hole and the foam flowed right back out and effectively cemented the barrels in place.

I was told at the time that one of the airframes (an externally complete one) was sent to Hawaii for filming there and it stayed there. It was also foamed so it could float.

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So what is left here.. anything?

Ocotillo Wells or Borrego Springs?

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It's all still there. It belongs to Kermit Weeks and is at Carl Scholl's place in Borrego Springs (or at least that's where he told me we were ).

Gary

You can even buy one for $1.5 million. Now if I can only win the lottery.

http://www.aerotrader.net/

The aircraft was moved to the new location in January. As of about three weeks ago she was still not put back together.

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Banndit, there is a book out on the Kee Bird story. I acquired it about ten years ago from Military Book Club but gave it to a friend. It was a good story but was still bittersweet to read since I knew how it would end. Anyone else familiar with this work? I'll see if I he still has it and get the correct name and author. It alternates chapters between the Kee Bird effort and the background of the participants and how the all met up. I found the latter part pretty interesting.

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Hey Doug;

"Hunting Warbirds" author: Carl Hoffman
copyright 2001, I can get ya an ISBN #

For awhile it was sitting in the grass next to KAM. That was over a year ago. There were also some pretty well beat up B-29 engines there too. All that was cleaned up sometime about a year ago. No idea what "cleaned up" entailed or where the stuff went though.

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