Grumman, the people that made the planes 12 SEPT 2010

[mjanovec]

The story of this clipped-wing Avenger is told in the book Flyboys (and this photo is included in the book). I hope I remember the story correctly...someone correct me if I'm wrong. The airplane was damaged and the pilot told the rest of the crew to bail out. After the other bailed out, the pilot discovered he was able to keep the plane under control and eventually brought it back safely.

The two crew members who bailed out were eventually executed by the Japanese.

(Note the damage behind the turret as well.)

[armyjunk2]

GRUMMAN XF4F
remember right click and save will give ID of photo.

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[JDK]

Imagine turning up at an airshow in this!

COOL.

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[Mr Widgeon]

[quote="armyjunk2"]GRUMMAN XF4F

Some really GOOD pics there.
A lot of stuff I haven't seen before.
Keep 'em coming man, keep 'em coming.

[merlin101]

WOW! yet again, great photo's Armyjunk!
Dave

[armyjunk2]

GRUMMAN MARTLETS

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[armyjunk2]

Hello everyone, can someone help me, is there a place or a way that I can post these so they won't disappear. They seem to be such good pictures it would be nice for them to be more permanent. Once they get back to about page 10 no one will ever see them again....any ideas??? Maybe another site or something?

[Mark Nankivil]

ArmyJunk2 - these are really, really great to see - keep'em coming!

What you might want to do is to note the album you're posting these from (assuming something like Photobucket, Flickr, etc.) or if you're not posting from such an account, then open one and build up albums of each aircraft type in that account. Just a suggestion...

Thanks very much for posting these and future images!

Enjoy the Day! Mark

[Mr Widgeon]

GRUMMAN MARTLETS

ARMYJUNK, you hit another one out of the park again.

[Jiggersfromsphilly]

Dear AJ2, I don't think these will hit page 10 for a long time.

Thanks ever so much for your work and please keep them comming.

[armyjunk2]

F4F WILDCATS
remember a right click and save will give you some info,


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[tom d. friedman]

incredible pics!!!! a world of thanks!!! there are martlets in british royal navy markings in lake michigan. a few brits trained here & pranged some landings on the great lakes training carriers. what a stir that would cause to bring up 1 of those babes!!!! i've got to hand it to grumman........ they were considerate to the u.s. govt / u.s. taxpayer by showing dissected pics of prototypes of what their bucks were buying.

[bdk]

If that is so, the US Navy does cannot lay claim to them and they should be ripe for recovery, right?

Note the Gulfhawk F3F in the back of this photo:

[JDK]

More great pics, thanks!





These two pictures are actually of a French ordered and French camouflaged aircraft (Perhaps a PissyChat?) - note the rudder stripes (not used by the British in this period, but by the French). Given the (temporary) Grumman civil registration, I'd guess it's the first one ordered with French mods - Metric instruments, throttle with 'pull for power' rather than the 'push', French gun and radio fittings, etc. I'm sure someone here knows more...

Many French ordered Wildcats were delivered to the Royal Navy after the fall of France, so this one may have ended up a Martlet, but it didn't start that way.

Regards,

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[Mr Widgeon]

Note the Gulfhawk F3F in the back of this photo:

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It's not the Gulfhawk but "The Red Ship" NC-1326 a model G-32A and used as the company demonstrator/transport. The other find is under the Wildcats left wingtip, the nose of the prototype Widgeon, NC-28633 (cn 1201).