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all the birds their saw operational service over the years except 2, the yc 14 & yc 15, weren't they experimental prototypes to the current c-17?? the entire premise of moth balling planes is for spare parts, or re-activation in case the sh*t really hits the fan in a national emergency / conflict. i trust those 2 yc's would be parted out to keep the current c-17's flying, as i would think uncle sam down the road wouldn't re-activate two 1 of a kind prototypes, as it's just not practical.

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tom d. friedman - hey!!! those fokkers were messerschmitts!! * without ammunition, the usaf would be just another flying club!!! * better to have piece of mind than piece of tail!!

The YC-'s are nothing like the C-17's in terms of parts, if i remember rightly they are quite alot smaller and the idea of parts commanality wasnt all that big at the time.

I stand to be corrected if anyone has any better information......

Chris

if that's the case, send em to a museum for all to enjoy rather than letting them sit out in the dust.

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tom d. friedman - hey!!! those fokkers were messerschmitts!! * without ammunition, the usaf would be just another flying club!!! * better to have piece of mind than piece of tail!!

I only thought I knew most arplanes...........what the heck is a C-27, where did they serve,and when. Never saw one before.

The YC-'s were were experimental STOL transports and the program was canceled. Some of the concepts were resurrected in the C-17. On another note, there is a photo of an Altus AFB C-141 with it's wings and tail chopped off. I remember working on her back when I was a C-141 and C-5 mechanic at Altus. Of course, back then she was all white over gray and an A-model, then a B-model, then she got the "lizzard" camo-warpaint!
A sad sight, indeed!

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The YC 14 is at Pima. I thought the 15 was there also.

http://www.pimaair.org/Acftdatapics/Boeing%20YC-14.htm

I think the YC-15 was recalled by its manufacturer for testing.

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They took the YC-15 back from us around 1996-97 something like that. Spent a small fortune making it flyable, and took it to California. They flew it very, very briefly and then grounded it. I was told they found serious problems in the wing not long after getting out there. I've also heard there was an engine failure. Anyway McD-D decided that it was too expensive to fix and the engines were stripped off and the rest is basically abandoned somewhere at Palmdale. The second YC-15 and YC-14 are both at AMARC and have not been released to the heritage program and so can not go to a museum, not that anybody could afford to move them anyway.

James

The YC-14 & 15 are quite a bit smaller than the C-17 and were technology demonstrators. The Boeing YC-14 utilized the Coanda effect to generate additional lift by having the engines blow air over the top of the wings, while the Douglas YC-15 utilized the blown flap concept now used on the C-17. They were not intended to be production aircraft. The YC-15 has nothing in common with the C-17, in fact the wheel pods came from a C-141 I think. One of the YC-15s was refurbished for testing by McDonnell Douglas as part of research for a commercial variant, but that idea was srapped after the merger with Boeing. The YC-15 flap system is a lot more complicated than that of the C-17.

Interestingly, the Russians built a production aircraft that looked very much like the Boeing YC-14.

YC-15 in it's final commercial paint scheme:

The C-27 Spartan was a version of the Aeritalia G.222.
Here is a link to everything you wanted to know about the type: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-27_Spartan

This is an amazingly agile aircraft especially in it's latest verion, the C-27J:
http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos/ ... hter/1003/

Some were based out of Howard AFB Panama. They could get in and out of very short fields so that made them ideal for some of the operations "down south". I flew with them at a tactics school at Ft Huachuca AZ and I'll agree they were verrry agile and could turn on a dime. In debriefing, it was fun watching them give the F-16 aggressor so much difficulty on the gunnery film--slow speed, and tight turn radius down rrreal low in the weeds presented a challenge to the speedy fighter.

The C-27 looks like it would make one heck of a firefighter. Did any of them ever get tried out in this application?

It's kinda sad to see the Wright-Patt Starlifters in the Bone yard. I grew up with these aircraft flying over my house on a daily basis.



This was taken a month before their retirement in April of '06



and of course "The Last Flight" of the C-141 by 0177 "Hanoi Taxi" this past May













......and then the band and crowds slowly faded away living just another museum relic (sigh )





Shay
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There is one Spartan in sad shape at Western Intls. yard. The rest were taken over by the State Dept. contingent down at Patrick AFB, Florida. I guess they are using them in conjunction with their OV-10D spray ops down south.