Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:52 am
By writing this, you imply that she should have had an operable ejection seat. Some thoughts.exhaustgases wrote:If she had enough time to radio she had enough time to eject.
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:00 am
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:38 am
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:19 am
p51buff wrote: https://www.landspeed.com/stories/pr...ober-14-2016/,
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:12 am
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:09 pm
marine air wrote:Maybe it’s time to do away with male and female distinctions in speed records....
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:56 pm
marine air wrote:Maybe it’s time to do away with male and female distinctions in speed records.
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:09 pm
OD/NG wrote:By writing this, you imply that she should have had an operable ejection seat. Some thoughts.exhaustgases wrote:If she had enough time to radio she had enough time to eject.
YES IS SHOULD HAVE BEEN OPERABLE.
If her "backup" plan was to use an ejection seat as a way to leave the car in case she could not stop, then that would have been an extremely poor and unsafe idea. Having a live ejection seat in the car would be putting the driver at a very, very high risk of death.
SERIOUS ? DIDN'T YOU HEAR WHAT HAPPENED BY NOT EJECTING OUT?
2) If the driver could not guarantee the above, then the chances of an uncommanded ejection and nearly certain death, would have a very high probability of occurrence, and the ejection seat would not be a viable safety measure.
I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT AN UNCOMMANDED EJECT.
I'm guessing in the context of this accident, #2 would apply here.
Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:59 am
Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:26 am
exhaustgases wrote:OD/NG wrote:By writing this, you imply that she should have had an operable ejection seat. Some thoughts.exhaustgases wrote:If she had enough time to radio she had enough time to eject.
YES IS SHOULD HAVE BEEN OPERABLE.
If her "backup" plan was to use an ejection seat as a way to leave the car in case she could not stop, then that would have been an extremely poor and unsafe idea. Having a live ejection seat in the car would be putting the driver at a very, very high risk of death.
SERIOUS ? DIDN'T YOU HEAR WHAT HAPPENED BY NOT EJECTING OUT?
2) If the driver could not guarantee the above, then the chances of an uncommanded ejection and nearly certain death, would have a very high probability of occurrence, and the ejection seat would not be a viable safety measure.
I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT AN UNCOMMANDED EJECT.
I'm guessing in the context of this accident, #2 would apply here.
And in the end what happened without a chance to eject? All comments in caps are mine.
Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:28 am
Joe Scheil wrote:Please stop this line of “reasoning”.
If anyone thinks an ejection is a SAFE way of saving a life, you need to forget that right now.
When I learned the T-33, it was briefed to me that we WOULD NOT eject if we thought we had a 99% chance of getting killed. The ejection seat was intended for the situations that meant we would have a 100% chance of getting killed. Faced with that upcoming certainty, we would then see if every part of the sequence worked as advertised, turn a couple L2, L3 vertebrae into powder and try to maintain consciousness enough to ascertain if the chute has deployed...
If anyone thinks ANY dry lake effort has the ability to afford a zero zero Martin Baker and make it fit a dry lake racecar AND have it matter in the least you are insane.
Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:50 am
Joe Scheil wrote:Please stop this line of “reasoning”.
If anyone thinks an ejection is a SAFE way of saving a life, you need to forget that right now.
When I learned the T-33, it was briefed to me that we WOULD NOT eject if we thought we had a 99% chance of getting killed. The ejection seat was intended for the situations that meant we would have a 100% chance of getting killed. Faced with that upcoming certainty, we would then see if every part of the sequence worked as advertised, turn a couple L2, L3 vertebrae into powder and try to maintain consciousness enough to ascertain if the chute has deployed...
If anyone thinks ANY dry lake effort has the ability to afford a zero zero Martin Baker and make it fit a dry lake racecar AND have it matter in the least you are insane.
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:26 am
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:32 am
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:13 am
marine air wrote:Maybe it’s time to do away with male and female distinctions in speed records. Not worth the risk of life.