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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:04 pm 
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I hope that I have found the right site for my topic. My stepfather was gunner in either the A-20, a mosquito or a B-26. He was based in England and flew as a gunner on what the Germans called a Jabo mission - short hops into France to strafe and bomb smaller targets and targets of opportunity. He flew from early 1942 (like February)until D-Day. He said that the Jabo was considered not a high risk and so there was no limitation on the number of missions to be flown. Sometime after D-Day, the missions into France were shut down or reduced and they Army put him at the wheel of a Red Ball truck in the convoys to support the front lines in France and Germany

He took hundreds of pictures of his bases the planes and the guys he knew. Those photos disappeared when he and my mother divorced in 1975. A terrible loss. They were in two large photo albums about 16" square and about 12" thick. I cold never find them.

If anyone can help me, I would like to know the names of all (or some of) the English bases having Joint Missions (he first flew with Poles and other nationalities as a mixed aircrew. I'd like to go to England and visit the sites of the old airfields.

Richard (Dick) Walker
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:36 pm 
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There weren't many USAAF A-20s based in England until late 1943, early 1944. You had the 15th BS, which was part of the 47th BG, IIRC and they flew the first American raid from England on July 4th, 1942. They eventually shipped out for North Africa for Torch. Later groups, 409th, 410th and 416th flew A-20s for the 9th Air Force, but they didn't become active until the months leading up to D-Day.

You may want to check for a book "RAF Boston Units of the Second World War" from the Osprey series (IIRC), which would have more information on RAF activities (The RAF called the A-20 the "Boston" and it saw extensive service out of England until the Mosquito became available in large numbers.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:28 pm 
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Thanks for helping me out. I wish I had more accurate data on my stepfather. I am sure that what he told me of his "tour" in England was truthful. His photos were amazing and I am so sorry that they disappeared in the divorce. I didn't have the presence of mind to seek them out and capture them. I know the Warbirds would have relished every picture.

Your description of the sequence of events regarding the deployment of aircraft does confuse me, but I guess my memory has failed. I thought that he first flew in the Mosquitos, and then transitioned to the B-26 or A-20...I guess not.

He described the Mosquito as a very flimsy aircraft made of plywood and light weight materials. I haven't found a reference on the internet that confirms that. Do you have any input?

I noted that a lot of photos of the Jabos did not show the top turret guns. He was a gunner, so he must have been flying later than I thought. He did join the Army on Monday, December 8th...I remember that. He enlisted with many of his high school friends. At the time he was working for the telephone company in San Diego Ca as a lineman so the Army assigned him the same MOS - telephone lineman. After a short basic training in Florida, he was shipped to New Jersey to go to pole climbing school. Immediately after that he was put on a troop ship to England. Of course, when he arrived they had no need for lineman...what the Army needed was aircrews. Hence his stint in the Jabos

According to him, he flew from his arrival in England until shortly after D-Day when the number of viable targets begin to dissipate as the Germans moved further back and on into Germany. He also mentioned that a few of his friends were taken into the telephone school at New Jersey and arrived in England with him. He flew over 300 missions and at the end, all of his friends had been killed. He had pictures of them standing by their aircraft and I have no doubt that he was truthful in as much as his memory would allow.

He had colorful stories about the mixed crews that first flew in his squadron...Poles, Italians and Eastern Europeans that spoke almost no English. They were given a few weeks of gunnery training and then thrown into the planes along with Englishmen, Canadians, and Americans.

As the units became disestablished, he was sure that he was going back to the states...but no luck, He was impressed into the Red Ball convoys and spent the rest of the war carrying supplies to the front. He did say that being in Paris shortly after the liberation was some of the best days of his life. He didn't elucidate further, but I had an idea about what he meant.

He carved his squadron and group numbers into a large wooden propeller that hung in our living room forever. I'd give a large part of my life to have that momento. One thing that I do remember that he definitely used the 8th AF logo and not the 9th. That will be a puzzle I will never understand.

If you call me, please identify immediately who you are as we often ditch the hundreds of money-seekers that pester us every day. I'd love to talk with you about your own experiences or knowledge you have in this area.

I served in the Air Force from 1955 through 1959 with SAC. I worked on nuclear and thermonuclear weapons in the desert between White Sands and Biggs AFB near El Paso. I wanted to fly, but washed out due to my eyesight. Spent a few months in Germany. The closest I ever got to war was the Hungarian revolt in 1956. We were loaded and ready to go, but Ike never gave the word. I think that that was our country's biggest mistake. We had always been the lone Ranger on our White Stallion coming to the rescue. But we really dropped the ball. That, in my opinion was when America started losing face in the world. We wanted to go so baldy. Being youthful, we never gave a thought about the risk of getting killed or injured and were totally discouraged when we ordered to stay on the ground.

Years later, in the 80's fate had me meet a young girl from Hungary. She was a small child in 1956. She and her family escaped the returning Russians by crawling hundreds of yards under a barbed wire perimeter. She was beautiful, but her back was deeply scarred as a result of the experience. She spoke perfect English and had the demeanor of Princess Grace. One night after we had been dating for a few months we were at dinner in a very nice restaurant. She had one too many drinks and slowly became very sullen and quiet. Then, she put down her drink and came across the table at me screaming why didn't you come...why didn't you come.. and then burst into tears She said that everyone in her city knew we would come to their rescue., and when we didn't, they were devastated.

Thanks for taking the time to send me this info.

Richard (Dick) Walker
Olympia WA
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:38 am 
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Just off the cuff, some of the details don't make alot of sense at this point. Army Air Corps missions from England didn't start until Jul/Aug. 42. Flying with a mixed nationality crew is also a bit odd for an Army Air Corps flight crew member. Over 300 missions and becoming a truck driver after D-Day is also most likely not accurate.

If you post your stepfathers name it might help in finding more details.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:55 pm 
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Thanks for your interest.

My stepfather's name is/was Charles Arthur Swank, born in Galesburg Illinois in 1922 Attended San Diego (CA) High school in the '30s His rank at discharge was T/Sgt. He was wounded in his left hand by flack. Got the purple heart for that. I have not queried the usual military offices as I didn't think they would have any specific info about England Air Bases.

Another weird fact is that in spite of the regulations about not bringing back war souveneirs, he brought home a Mauser rifle, an Italian carbine, and a very old Schutzen salon (for indoor range use) rifle. A strange looking device that was about 6 feet long, but the active barrel was only the last 12 inches just before the muzzle. The stock was hand carved, inlaid with different woods. and had marvelous checquering. I saw one at Cabelas last year that wasn't nearly as nice and in poorer condition as his and they were asking $5,000 for it. He said that he smuggled them onto the troop ship in his mattress sack. Go figure. He was an amazing woods carver and fashioned a beautiful.walnut sporter stock for the Mauser. He sold them off, one by one in the '50s.


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